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    Quote Originally Posted by jodysanders View Post
    My bad - that was for Sparkle.

    But there is no copyright notice for your software, you do not have a legal leg to stand on.
    Don't you see the (c) iphone-dev team 2008 in the "About" menu of the application? Let me show you a screenshot.



    We are very careful about licensing all items correctly that make up PwnageTool including third party libraries such as sparkle, libpng etc. Third party libraries and tools have their licenses displayed in the help file because they have to be, other licenses such as the code, technology and other proprietary IP from Wizdaz, Turbo, Pumpkin and myself (and others who are not named here) are licensed privately and do not need to be displayed there. I will say once more, please destroy all modified copies of PwnageTool in your possession and stop the illegal distribution of this application.


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    Quote Originally Posted by )law( View Post
    Your a mother right, well consider the dev team mothers as well and the pawnge tool there child. How would you feel if someone exploited your child..
    hahaha thats great

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    I want to add that if she does get a lawyer for this...

    Sam and iPhone Dev Team...you, and i hope i can speak on the entire hackint0sh.org members, have our monetary support in getting a lawyer and kicking her ass

    If not, you got my support!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Number_41 View Post
    I want to add that if she does get a lawyer for this...

    Sam and iPhone Dev Team...you, and i hope i can speak on the entire hackint0sh.org members, have our monetary support in getting a lawyer and kicking her ass

    If not, you got my support!


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    so dev team- as far as I understand, your issue is with me distributing the Firmware files and your modified application.

    If I direct my customers to your webpage though, is this permissible? As countless other websites do so?

    And I take down the modified pwnage and firmware, and instruct users to create their own, is this permissible?

    So rather than it appearing that we are selling your software, it then appears that we are selling ADVICE on how to get your software and how to use it.

    Can someone please talk to me sensibly about this, thanks.


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    Because the advice that we have already written is copyrighted, and as such, we are legally able to charge for it. We have to recoup our server costs, bandwidth costs, staff costs etc

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    And as an aside - if you guys really want to have a go at someone, try one of the countless other 'iphone unlocking' websites where people charge for your software and dont even give any kind of support - why are they not being victimised by you??? Its because we've been too open about the whole thing, putting up phone numbers, company names, addresses etc, and being open to being bullied by you, rather than being able to hide behind shady websites and aliases as you all do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jodysanders View Post
    so dev team- as far as I understand, your issue is with me distributing the Firmware files and your modified application.

    If I direct my customers to your webpage though, is this permissible? As countless other websites do so?

    And I take down the modified pwnage and firmware, and instruct users to create their own, is this permissible?

    So rather than it appearing that we are selling your software, it then appears that we are selling ADVICE on how to get your software and how to use it.

    Can someone please talk to me sensibly about this, thanks.
    All of this is on this forum already and it is free support/advice here.
    BTW, this is my opinion ... and not of Dev Team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jodysanders View Post
    so dev team- as far as I understand, your issue is with me distributing the Firmware files and your modified application.
    First off, why has your attitude changed so suddenly? Do you now realise that you are breaking the law? Your sarcastic one-liners quoting the wrong licenses were not appreciated.

    We don't care what you do with Apple's firmware, that is entirely up to you, we do not condone the hosting or even hotlinking to Apple .ipsw files. We do care about any distribution of our software and IP, and we do care about you fiddling around with the software to give the impression that it is your software.

    Quote Originally Posted by jodysanders
    If I direct my customers to your webpage though, is this permissible?
    No, as I described earlier you may not hotlink to our content, application or anything else relating to PwnageTool, also you may not use screenshots, excerpts or any images for our application, this includes logos, graphics and content, we do not wish to be associated with your operation in any way shape or form.

    Quote Originally Posted by jodysanders
    And I take down the modified pwnage and firmware, and instruct users to create their own, is this permissible?
    Do not mention us, link to us or use any of our intellectual property in any way.

    Quote Originally Posted by jodysanders
    So rather than it appearing that we are selling your software, it then appears that we are selling ADVICE on how to get your software and how to use it.
    Write your own software, then you can do what you want, seriously, re-read that last quote, how do you sleep at night?

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    but people aren't aware of your forum! We pay thousands of dollars for various forms of advertising, print and online, to drive people to our website.


 

 

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