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Discuss Chinese users, Youtube deliberately block videos in China. at the General - Hackint0sh.org; Originally Posted by XianLi After checking the http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/videos/ url, it appears that the Youtube application ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by XianLi View Post
    After checking the http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/videos/ url, it appears that the Youtube application is a Custom RSS viewer integrating a video player.

    You can view the same content with Mobile RSS by using the same url.
    When opening a link inside Mobile RSS will launch Youtube video Player.

    I'm now investigating on any possibilities to bypass the stupid Youtube blocking rule.
    please don't blame you tube...it makes no business sense for them to be banned in any country, they will do what they have to stay available to as many people as possible. for all you know they might be removing the material that caused the ban.

    and the reason that chin's internet policy sucks or the reason why china has become a totalitarian state is because you, the people of china, have not stood up for your rights. i'll like to qoute V (from V for Vandetta) here "it is not the people who should be afraid of the goverment, it is the goverment which should be afraid of the people"


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    Quote Originally Posted by geejay101 View Post
    Yes, I am aware of tcpdump. Also I would question whether one can reliably detect with an IP protocol dump whether Youtube is indeed the culprit as the Chinese proxies might alter the protocol in realtime.

    In any case, I cant see any reason why YouTube should do any such thing unless it is pressured by the Chinese government. If Youtube does so then it is of course deplorable.

    However the basic point stays: YourChina sucks.
    sorry, no offence but BULL FUCKING SHIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by geejay101 View Post
    Yes, I am aware of tcpdump. Also I would question whether one can reliably detect with an IP protocol dump whether Youtube is indeed the culprit as the Chinese proxies might alter the protocol in realtime.

    In any case, I cant see any reason why YouTube should do any such thing unless it is pressured by the Chinese government. If Youtube does so then it is of course deplorable.

    However the basic point stays: YourChina sucks.
    starting from today, please dump all Chinese products in your daily life, including your iPhone, please remember your iPhone IS MADE IN CHINA, and you should appreciate that because if your iPhone is MADE IN ANYWHERE ELSE it will be 10x more expensive, and i don't think you RACIST can afford that.

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    Hi all,
    actually i do not think that one is a racist just because you do not agree with a dictatorship government...
    One should not mix up Chinese with Chinese governement, i personally know quite some Chinese which are wonderful & friendly people although none of them is very political aware which is strange because in all other respects they are as smart or smarter than me...

    While i do not support the harsh way that China / Chinese are treated from some posters above, i think that calling criticism toward China "Racism" is not desirable as well...

    My 2 Eurocents,

    Ender
    Last edited by enderffx; 11-06-2007 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enderffx View Post
    Hi all,
    actually i do not think that one is a racist just because you do not agree with a dictatorship government...
    One should not mix up Chinese with Chinese governement, i personally know quite some Chinese which are wonderful & friendly people although none of them is very political...

    While i do not support the harsh way that China / Chinese are treated from some posters above, i think that calling criticism toward China "Racism" is not desirable as well...

    My 2 Eurocents,

    Ender
    And please note that not all Chinese hate the Chinese government. It is because our government we achieved over 10% growth rate every single year for more than 10 years. It is because our government our country became the fastest growing country ever in these years.

    And thanks for the western medias for all the negative reports on China, but in fact we have a much better daily life than those you saw on your newspaper.

    I knew there are some problems in our government and society during our development, but those problems are not avoidable during developing stage and will be solved someday.


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    And please note that not all Chinese hate the Chinese government. It is because our government we achieved over 10% growth rate every single year for more than 10 years. It is because our government our country became the fastest growing country ever in these years.


    Hi again !
    yes, obviously those who benefit will not "hate" or even critizice a government, that is to be said also about democratic or whatever government/leadership.

    And while the economic growth is admirable, the thing that is missing is the parallel growth of freedom & awareness that marked the economic growth of the "Tiger" countries...

    Lets see what happens it is exiting anyways ( from the outside ).

    Greetings,

    Ender

    P.S. sorry for all the BS, this is an iPhone Forum, right ?
    Last edited by enderffx; 11-06-2007 at 05:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsu View Post
    I knew there are some problems in our government and society during our development, but those problems are not avoidable during developing stage and will be solved someday.
    among "those problems" are:

    - you will land in prison for several years when publishing information against the government

    - you will be executed in severe cases

    - your organs will be sold to the highest bidder

    You will surely be able to explain to my why this is "unavoidable".

    Your country is run by one "communist" party which does as it pleases.

    Omnipotent "communist" officials enrich themselves on a grand scale and anyone who challenges that corrupt system disappears - its as simple as that.

    If you are happy with that then its fine with me. But please dont complain that youtube has problems doing business in China or that iPhones dont speak Chinese.

    If anything what I say offends you then this is only so because you have some strongly misguided loyalty to your regime.

    It remains to be seen how stable this system is or whether it just reduces to dust as all other "communist" regimes before.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by geejay101 View Post
    among "those problems" are:

    - you will land in prison for several years when publishing information against the government

    - you will be executed in severe cases

    - your organs will be sold to the highest bidder

    You will surely be able to explain to my why this is "unavoidable".

    Your country is run by one "communist" party which does as it pleases.

    Omnipotent "communist" officials enrich themselves on a grand scale and anyone who challenges that corrupt system disappears - its as simple as that.

    If you are happy with that then its fine with me. But please dont complain that youtube has problems doing business in China or that iPhones dont speak Chinese.

    If anything what I say offends you then this is only so because you have some strongly misguided loyalty to your regime.

    It remains to be seen how stable this system is or whether it just reduces to dust as all other "communist" regimes before.

    Cheers
    sorry i made mistake and i would like to apologize now, according to this famous quote: "Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

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    stop guys this argue will never end!!!
    we suppose to talk about Iphone didt we!!!

    for those who dont China every well or you think you know China very well but never live in China for more 6 month please stop post

    for those who r from China and want to defend for their country please stop too, you will never make a clear idea which other will understand.

    for the dude who start the **** sucks post, please edit your post and lets have a peace

    cheers
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    And one last point regarding the iphone being 10x cheaper to produce in china than elsewhere.

    As it happens i have also worked at eastern european factories which were formerly under commie rule. So i had first hand experience how the commie exploitation system worked.

    E.g. Vietnamese workers were sent to the soviet union or eastern block. There they received a microscopic salary at the factories. However in reality the salary was much bigger. The rest of the real salary which had been negotiated between the two commie states was sent directly to the vietnamese state. Simple pure slave work.

    Similar schemes are employed these days in china. As workers are not allowed to move freely and also factories need permissions to open local officials can freely negotiate bribes for themselves and can dictate worker salaries.

    So yes, we are all profiting from the chinese commie exploitation system. However it is up to the chinese to change that. Not youtube.

    And finally dear chinese friends: dont kid youselves: if china should ever hit some problems and cannot produce iphones cheaply anymore then a new iphone factory will be setup in no time in Congo or Ivory coast.
    Cheers


 

 
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