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    Default Can you make serious money writing jailbroken software?

    I'm happy (and not surprised) to see that Apple's iPhone control system has been broken.

    But, for a prospective developer, who may sell very large numbers of their program in Apple Store, is it reasonable to expect anything close to such income from "illicit" development?

    Aside from us geeks, who will buy? Does anybody have sales numbers for any jailbroken software?

    Thanks......

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    Ask the coder of e.g. SwirrlyMMS or MCleaner, they make money out of jailbroken software, and i think SwirrlyMMS makes a lot of them because its a nice and good application, but you will find cracks for every software out there not only on the iPhone.
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    The app store is a runaway success because it's way too easy to buy an app. One click and enter your password, that's it.

    To get "illicit" software, first you have to JB your phone, then you have to deal with entering in payment info, etc, and getting a registration code or activating with a server. I don't know about you, but that's the main reason why I don't really buy JB software often.

    Long story short, you'll never get the same kind of revenue from the JB community. As far as actual numbers go, you'll have to contact individual developers.

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    what's wrong with App Store? You get way more exposure and not too mention people will buy it with a trust. and for JB apps, I wouldn't go through all the hassle to buy one..needless to say, I'll be a bit scared to provide my CC details for something that comes through the back door..not blaming anyone, it's the general consensus I thought..

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    Thanks for the answers.

    The reason I ask is, I thought developers were frustrated with Apple Store, because of the way Apple picks and chooses what app they will let you develop. So if I want to develop and app that competes with one already in Apple Store, they won't let me. And you can't talk with them, I've read the acceptance process is mysterious and unpredictable.

    As I understand it, the only other way to develop/sell software for iPhone is jailbreaking, so I thought that's why people are here, developing outside the Apple Store model.

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    That is true, but I think you will only make money if you write something truly useful that the app store does not provide. As the app store grows this becomes more and more difficult. You will also see a lot of people mentioning piracy, if it was not banned on this forum it would probably have its own section. Trust is another big one, I personally dont trust any third party developers with my credit card details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by river View Post
    Thanks for the answers.

    The reason I ask is, I thought developers were frustrated with Apple Store, because of the way Apple picks and chooses what app they will let you develop. So if I want to develop and app that competes with one already in Apple Store, they won't let me. And you can't talk with them, I've read the acceptance process is mysterious and unpredictable.

    As I understand it, the only other way to develop/sell software for iPhone is jailbreaking, so I thought that's why people are here, developing outside the Apple Store model.

    river
    You're right, jailbreaking is done in part for the use of applications Apple won't allow, like anything that works "under the hood" (changing the default behavior of the phone), or runs in the background, or competes with Apple's own applications, or doesn't comply with some other arbitrary and secret standard. An application in which I'm involved was rejected from App Store for mentioning the Hackint0sh forum in the "About" notes!

    Another reason for jailbreaking is to remove the sim lock (in the case of 2G iPhones), and another one is to have control over a device for which you paid a lot of money, just like you have control over all your other computers.

    If an application that Apple wouldn't allow is really unique and valuable, you can make money off it, but obviously the jailbroken audience is just a fraction of the full owner base of iPhones.
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    Thanks again for the responses.

    Yes, I expected the "illicit" community is small relative to the Apple Store base.

    I looked at the iPhone, and looked in the Apple Store to see if there is a good checking account program. I could not find one, and this is a critical app on my Palm. So I thought I might write one to use, and get rich too :-). But, I read that 1- Apple is controlling the store so you can't compete with existing apps, and 2- They are favoring larger developers. So I bet that before I could get one approved, someone else is already working on it and would beat me. Moreover, I'll bet Quicken is developing one, and what chance would I have against Quicken, who can has several ways to influence Apple's choice.

    So, I'd like to call the Apple Store folks and talk about it. But I haven't found anything anywhere that explains how to do that.

    Moreover, if I have a good idea for an app, and send it to Apple hoping they will let me write it, I have just given away my money making idea, without even having anything to field to take advantage of it.

    So that's why I wanted to see if the non-Apple Store community would be a viable alternative. It seems at this point there is no choice but to go with Blackberry or GooglePhone.

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    Maybe it's important to add some facts here:

    - the jailbreak/free apps stuff is FAR older than appstore, appstore was just an answer to the demand of third party apps and the overhelming success of jailbroken software. Orignally Steve never had the intesion to open the iPhone OS.

    - there was NO primary intension in the free toolchain to do a alternative business model, it was created to allow development and is still continues to allow a alternative way of development/free development outside of (in many people opinion) wrong rules dictated by apple.

    - appstore is a way of sale, selling stuff independetly developing and selling software is just another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by river View Post
    Yes, I expected the "illicit" community is small relative to the Apple Store base.

    I looked at the iPhone, and looked in the Apple Store to see if there is a good checking account program. I could not find one, and this is a critical app on my Palm. So I thought I might write one to use, and get rich too :-). But, I read that 1- Apple is controlling the store so you can't compete with existing apps, and 2- They are favoring larger developers. So I bet that before I could get one approved, someone else is already working on it and would beat me. Moreover, I'll bet Quicken is developing one, and what chance would I have against Quicken, who can has several ways to influence Apple's choice.
    Just to take away any misconceptions:
    First, there's nothing illicit about jailbreaking. At worst, it would allow Apple to refuse warranty service. But it's certainly not a crime.

    Second, when we say "no competing apps", we mean competing with Apple's built-in iPhone apps (Safari, Weather, Stocks etc.). There is no problem with applications that compete with other App Store apps. Just look at the number of voice notes, instant messaging or to do list applications. So you could very well make your accounting application -- Apple will not choose between your and someone else's app. In fact, App Store is a place where small developers can compete with large ones much easier than they normally could. For example, you could probably compete with Quicken on price.
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