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    Default Can NE1 Confirm the spec of the UK iPhone to have 3G

    I was watching the iPhone IRC the other night and someone said the UK iPhone is going to be 3G. I wonder how accurate this is (or is it just speculation) because if its true, I would seriously consider using my 14 day to cancel option on the USA phone I purchased!!!

    The more I've been thinking about it, the more I am inclined to think it makes sense because I don't think we have Edge in the UK, we jumped straight to 3G. I've already heard bad reports about Edge being slow in the USA, so if the iPhone was released in the UK as per US spec, falling back to GPRS would make it dire if not unusable for data!

    I've just did some quick digging to check and found this article:

    http://networks.silicon.com/mobile/0...9155976,00.htm

    Which still makes me think that if Apple are still intending to release the iphone in Autumn '07, surely they can't be relying on Edge for the data capabilities!!

    I have a couple of days in which to cancel and not have to pay the re-stocking fee........what to do........

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    I doub't we would be fortunate enough to for them to add-in Bluetooth as well

    Jees, I am a complete fan of the iPhone but as much as the designers deserve applauding for nearly everything on the iPhone, who ever decided to leave out Bluetooth in a mobile device in this day and age deserves to be sacked!
    Perhaps is different in the US, but Bluetooth is widely used in the UK and to launch a new phone without it would be un-thinkable over here!

    My Macbook even has Bluetooth in it and I sync a 4 year old Sony Ericsson P900 seamlessly. In fact I've been hanging on to the Sony (which has a touch screen) for so long now because I've been waiting for a suitable replacement. I took the removable keypad off when I first got it and whilst it comes with a stylus, I've been using my finger for everything including hand written txt messages for the last 4 years, so its been the closest thing to the iPhone!



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    Well even if they put a 3G chip in the iPhone it would not be very forward thinking as there are demos of 4G and WiMAX currently being held.

    My understanding is that if the phone doesnt pickup an EDGE signal it reverts to GPRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syntrak View Post
    Well even if they put a 3G chip in the iPhone it would not be very forward thinking as there are demos of 4G and WiMAX currently being held.
    But not less forward thinking than not putting 3G in at all and leaving it with slowww EDGE and even slowwwer GPRS?
    The big carriers in the UK spent millions on the licenses for 3G and its only just starting to emerge and get used with its kind of ridiculous to promote a phone to use data more than ever with push email, video, u-tube etc and not put in the predominant high speed service at present (that being 3G).

    Quote Originally Posted by syntrak View Post
    My understanding is that if the phone doesn't pickup an EDGE signal it reverts to GPRS.
    Which will make the data services practically useless and put people off using them which is exactly the opposite user experience Apple was going for.

    The whole point of the iPhone was to make the features effortless so people would actually make use of them where-as in previous mobile incarnations people found them too clumsy to use and hence didn't utilize the phones to their full potential. (Yes I watched the keynote's).

    Eveyone agree's iPhones sleek user interface is fantastic and probably the biggest turn-on for wanting the phone if we are all honest but the biggest turn-off to using a phones functionality is a poor/frustrating response!!

    Analogy: Ever tried going back to Internet dial-up????


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    Actually, forget the Bluetooth stuff, I thought it had it built-in, but I watched a BBC review program called "Click" yesterday and they had some prat on there who bought one of the first ones and he said a major drawback was a lack of Bluetooth.

    I just went back and checked the specs and it does have Bluetooth and they even sell a Bluetooth Headset in the iPhone store accessories.

    Duh!

    Call me optimistic, but I tend to hope for at least some accuracy checking in a BBC TV Media broadcast :-o
    Last edited by healeydave; 07-08-2007 at 12:08 PM.

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    You're right there is no EDGE in the UK - seen as 2.5g so no-one invested in it. Cant believe either o2 or Voda will go for a 2g model??

    Having said all that got mine in the US last week and it's v.v.cool. Works in the UK fine - apart from the phone roaming that is.......


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    Well apparently all the UK networks want the exclusive contract for iPhone (like AT&T), so we are either in for a big disappointment when it comes to using it for data services or they intend to make it more compatible for the UK with 3G (we hope).

    Although won't that suddenly turn the tables and result in everybody else wanting the UK phone :-)

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    According to ZDNet, the baseband EDGE chip in the USA iPhone is the Infineon PMB8876 which does not directly include 3G capabilities. On the upside, the chip does include an H.263 encoder, SD/MMC IO capabilities and can be upgraded with a 3G/WCDMA coprocessor. Apple might be developing new hardware for sale in other markets - if so, regulatory applications would probably be a good place to watch.
    Last edited by extreo; 07-09-2007 at 01:01 AM. Reason: Added details from product brief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by healeydave View Post
    Actually, forget the Bluetooth stuff, I thought it had it built-in, but I watched a BBC review program called "Click" yesterday and they had some prat on there who bought one of the first ones and he said a major drawback was a lack of Bluetooth.

    I just went back and checked the specs and it does have Bluetooth and they even sell a Bluetooth Headset in the iPhone store accessories.

    Duh!

    Call me optimistic, but I tend to hope for at least some accuracy checking in a BBC TV Media broadcast :-o
    I think the Bluetooth quote was in reference to the fact that it does not have stereo bluetooth capabilities...only bluetooth for the radio side.

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    My understanding is that edge was a simple upgrade to 2g base stations as long as theyd been manufactured in the last decade. Given that, i wonder if its also going to be an easy addition to 3g equipment too.

    In hope the europen iPhone is 3g and I hope a 3g us iphone comes right after.

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    Default There is 1 edge network in the UK but...one carrier has it...

    and who have apple signed (according to the financial press ...O2 in the UK, and T-mobile in DE), the dopes with EDGE...


 

 
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