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    They also said in 3 weeks after that 3 months forced update iphone will be officially renamed to ipwned.


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    lol what a load of bullshit should have told the apple employee to go fuck herself

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycen View Post
    We all know that this is a DAMN LIE to scare you. Apple Store workers said that it was impossible to unlock 1.1.1. They were wrong. It will be done by The DEV TEAM.
    A friend just returned back from the States yesterday and although he bought an iPhone with FW 1.1.1, the girlie at the Apple counter was pretty aggressive telling him that he shouldn't bother buying an iPhone since he can't use it in Germany anyway.
    Well... I think that Apple executives are telling employees to scare people off, especially tourists. They can't actually refuse selling the iPhones to them (US...free country...etc.), even if they limit the quantities, so this is actually the only way to keep people from buying iPhones.

    It is a shame what Apple is doing but you'd be surprised how many people are actually backing up their way of distributing the iPhone. While my friend was buying his iPhone, another guy behind him was pretty upset that "honest" AT&T customers like he is have to pay and people who illegally(?really?) hack the iphone are actually doing this on the back of the honest people. My friend felt like criminal for a couple of minutes, pretty disgusting.

    Look around, check out various internet forums and you'll soon find out that there are lots of people, mainly AT&T customers with iPhones or maybe Apple/AT&T employees who actually bash those who are using unlock solutions for their iPhones. The comments are sometimes pretty harsh and insulting.

    Apple made a huge mistake and with the introduction of the iPhone in Europe, things get even worse because we're used to unlocked phones or at least the possibility to buy an unlock. The iPhone would be the first phone in Europe without this possibility, I doubt that customers will accept this without a "fight".
    Wanna bet? A couple of weeks after the iPhone introduction in Europe, the European Parliament is going to have a closer look at Apple's iPhone marketing, similar to the current investigations regarding iTunes.

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    Yeah, before the unlock was even out, around the time the TurboSim was just discovered it told the 'iphone expert' about it at the apple store and she about shit a brick and became uber bitch of the century. When she realized that I could give two shits what she thought she backed down a bit though. Then I just walked away. They are trained to scare you out of doing what you are allowed to do with your own device.
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    While the actions of individual Apple Store employees may vary, I suspect Apple's corporate policy is merely to point out the facts to potential buyers thus ensuring that people are clear on the system requirements.

    If you look at other products sold in Apple Stores, most Apple employees have always been very up-front and knowledgeable about things like specifications and requirements.... They are not the "snake oil salesmen" that you find in many less reputable computer shops or big-box stores, but rather seem to both know what they're talking about, and generally try to avoid bulls**tting the customer.

    Buying an iPhone for out-of-country use technically falls into the same category.... Apple doesn't officially support unlocking the iPhone, and doesn't officially support out-of-country use, so of course they're going to do their best to discourage this behaviour. In the very least, they want to make it clear that somebody buying an iPhone to use outside of the U.S. should not come crying back to Apple for a refund or technical support on a non-supported configuration.

    Consider that it's difficult for the average Apple employee to tell the difference between an experienced user, and the average joe who simply thinks the iPhone is a cool idea and could actually be completely uninformed about it. I know of several neophytes who have considered picking up an iPhone while in the U.S. and just assumed that it would work up here in Canada without understanding any of the issues around it, not to mention the fact that the reps in the Apple Stores in Toronto are still besieged by phone calls and requests to order iPhones by people who haven't quite figured out that they're not available here.

    In reality, the Apple Store employees are trained to pander to the lowest-common-denominator, and thus dealing with people such as ourselves in not something they're accustomed to. In that regard, I can tolerate most of the attitudes that tend to come from them in relation to issues such as these.


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    jhollington i always enjoy your well thought out replies. A beacon of intelligence in a sea of retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_cruiser View Post
    I was told something similar to this also but an apple employee at walden galleria in buffalo,NY. He said in 3 months they will have forced updates where if you don't update, you can't sync your phone with itunes.

    Its weird how both reps said the 3 month mark. Obviously something will happen later on down the road but nothing to this extreme.
    so now we have a tickin time bomb inside itunes as well?........... Man this thread just keeps getting more entertaining every post

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    I was in an apple store in Johannesburg, South Africa last week and I showed some of the employees my unlocked iphone and they were quite strange about it, they had never actually seen one and when they saw it was unlocked one told me it was not legal to unlock. I told him that I could do what ever I wanted with my iphone and that the only thing I could not do is ask apple for help is something did go wrong with my unlocked iphone. But I found it so funny how they (the employees) were actually a bit on the edge about the iphone and the whole "not legal" talk. People sometimes say the most weird things, or are told to say the most weird things.

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    I just realized... Unlocking the iPhone is the modern-day equivalent of how everyone used to think it was "illegal" to cut the tags off mattresses.

    It was never illegal! You can cut the tags off if you want!

    (The tags only had that warning to prevent the RETAILER from removing tags, the customer can do whatever they want with their property once they own it--just like with the iPhone)

    It just blows my mind that some people actually think I have broken the law. Like the cops are going to come after me or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_cruiser View Post
    I was told something similar to this also but an apple employee at walden galleria in buffalo,NY. He said in 3 months they will have forced updates where if you don't update, you can't sync your phone with itunes.

    Its weird how both reps said the 3 month mark. Obviously something will happen later on down the road but nothing to this extreme.
    They could do this, but they'd have to get you to update iTunes first.

    Three months is just past MacWorld 08. Maybe something's coming then.


 

 
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