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    Well, you have over 500 posts which means you must be experienced and probably waited to see of any potential problems before upgrading.

    If you look at the post count of most users having trouble with 1.1.3 you'll see they usually have less than 30 posts. So here's some explanation

    - Most people that upgraded didn't have the necessary experience to "support" the process, ie. they have problems due to their phone being "messed up" by 3rd party apps or didn't give it a lot of thought to prepare their phone for it. I know that if I ever were to do this upgrade I would first restore my 1.1.2 to clean it up from everything I've tweaked and installed.
    - More experienced people usually have the know-how to solve simple problems on their own, install apps manually,etc. and don't come screaming into the forum. So, the percentage of people having problems might be not be accurate

    I'm on the same boat as you, I'm still on a very stable and nice 1.1.2 and I'll wait for the full jailbreak before I make up my mind on upgrading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi799 View Post
    Fully agreed.... I see no point in performing that shit on my well working 1.1.2 OTB. Wouldn't mind 1.1.3, but not with all these problems... Perhaps when they tweak it to make it work well 100% (allright... 99%) of the time, I will join the 1.1.3 club... For now - thanks guys, but no.
    Fully agree,if 1.1.3 had java support I would have taken the risk,but for just moving few Icons around and tapping for lyrics which I can do the same online through Safari doesnt worth to risk my very stable and fully functioning Iphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docomar View Post
    Sorry to contradict you, but I have a very stable, without any problem whatsoever 1.1.3 NateJB, from a 1.1.1/04.01.13_G unlocked with AnySIM 1.1 , oktopreped, updated to 1.1.2 and unlocked with AnySIM 1.2.1u....!
    docomar, I had a functioning 1.1.3 install as well. It was far from perfect though. The differences between the Dev Team and Nate T's interpretation of 1.1.3 is very similar. This said, Nate forgot to do less things than the Dev Team did.

    In closing, I hope you feel the same way when the true-blue 1.1.3 is released and you have to downgrade to upgrade again. Time will tell.
    Last edited by Snowbird; 02-02-2008 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlp5 View Post
    Well, you have over 500 posts which means you must be experienced and probably waited to see of any potential problems before upgrading....
    wip5, don't get me wrong. I upgraded my iPhone like many from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 and it took me about 45m in order to fix all of the Dev Team's oversights. After 72h working with 1.1.3, I decided to go back to 1.1.2 because of serious sync errors with home brewed applications I have written for the iPhone and because I simply don't approve of upgrade method that was employed to get 1.1.3 on there.

    The only way to undo what has been done with the current 1.1.3 upgrade will involve downgrading to X and then upgrading again and I think that those of us who have gone back to 1.1.2/are currently running 1.1.2 will be in the best position to limit any data/configuration loses than those on 1.1.3. Once again, time will tell.

    Having worked with the iPhone since v.1.0.0 of the IPSW, if feel sufficiently confident that I'm not wrong, nor sufficiently hard headed to say that I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docomar View Post
    Sorry, Snowbird : 1.1.3 is definitely NOT madness, it is a very good idea, a continuously rewarding experience and a lot of STABILITY when done in good conditions and a "virgen" iphone. Personaly, it did not introduce any single problem to me, and most, if not all, issues reported are du to interferences du to third apps, patches or mods not removed before 1.1.3 NateJB.
    Last point docomar, my iPhone was "virgin" when I installed 1.1.3. The only things installed on it was the SSH suite and Installer.app and I still had problems using the Dev Team's 1.1.3 upgrade. Nate's implementaiton might have been the wiser choice, but I went with what was available.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbird View Post
    Last point docomar, my iPhone was "virgin" when I installed 1.1.3. The only things installed on it was the SSH suite and Installer.app and I still had problems using the Dev Team's 1.1.3 upgrade. Nate's implementaiton might have been the wiser choice, but I went with what was available.
    Snowbird, I really appreciate your honesty, and furthermore, I am not at all surprised, because of your reputatIon and also expertise in the iphone world!
    The number of posts does not necessary reflect someone's expertise, but I have followed your various posts since the very beginning, and every single post was full of "bon sens", as they say in Paris!

    I did also start with a plain 1.00 FW, since the very beginning of our adventure (July 1st 2007), tried fully all the following FWs, with their drawbacks, limitations and also traps.
    The only thing that matterred, for all of us, is that we were using that marvellous Apple or Unix OS.

    That being said, the only thing I do regret is that you did not use the Nate T JB.
    Why? because I am almost 100 per cent confident, that if you had followed the Nate T JB, your experience would have been completely different, and your conclusions would have reflected a full different story. I also think that the post you started in this thread would have a completely different flavor, or would simply did not exist maybe?

    I am not an expert, and cannot really tell or explain the true differences between the Nate JB and the Dev team JB, the only thing I know is obviously that there are different, and their impact or implementation is quite different, I mean on a VIRGEN IPHONE.

    We obviously, cannot compare our experiences : you followed the Dev team JB, and I followed the Nate T JB. I do not know if, by miracle, I was very lucky
    and finished with a very stable 1.1.3 JB without any single issue whatsoever. The only and very important point I tried to make in this thread, hoping it will profit to many others, is that I started the Nate JB with a VIRGEN CLEAN IPHONE WITHOUT ANY THIRD APPLICATION, PATCH OR MOD : the only things installed on it were the SSH suite and Installer.app .

    A last comment : I do not know if Nate forgot to do less things than the Dev Team did, but I do know that the differences between the Dev Team and Nate T's interpretation of 1.1.3 might not be very similar because of different outputs between the 2: our different experiences reflect that. Sorry to contradict you again.

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    the new dev 1.1.3-3 was ace,, uninstalled everything upgraded from installer hey presto 1.1.3 wiggly icons ,,,sexy lol
    after all its only software your not hitting it with a brick , u can always restore

 

 
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