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    Hi,

    I'm sorry that some of you have problems with it.
    There are some little bugs (theres also one that destroys your carrier logo).
    For some of you guys thinking that it has not been tested, it HAS been tested by like 10 beta testers.
    They had iPhone first gens, iPhone 3G's and iPod touches.
    It's focussed to use it on firmware 2.2, but it will probably also work on earlier 2.x firmware versions. (earlier versions have not been tested).
    About the touch settings. I feel sorry for the people that had to restore their Phone. I will put a warning on there as soon as i speak to kyle from ModMyi again.

    @ Jim Danner

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMario View Post
    Hi,

    I'm sorry that some of you have problems with it.
    There are some little bugs (theres also one that destroys your carrier logo).
    For some of you guys thinking that it has not been tested, it HAS been tested by like 10 beta testers.
    They had iPhone first gens, iPhone 3G's and iPod touches.
    It's focussed to use it on firmware 2.2, but it will probably also work on earlier 2.x firmware versions. (earlier versions have not been tested).
    About the touch settings. I feel sorry for the people that had to restore their Phone. I will put a warning on there as soon as i speak to kyle from ModMyi again.

    @ Jim Danner

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    Ah, here you are! Just when I wanted to ask something.

    So, here:
    - what is "Show Touch" and why doesn't it do anything? Tried rebooting.
    - is touch slider sets some offset?
    - why isn't it possible to set any auto-dim timeout with autolock = never? It just reverts to auto-dim = never, autolock = 1 min.

    And there's that custom carrier logo bug. Mine disappeared after I went to prefs first time after enabling SP in WB. I didn't even touch Fake Carrier fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMario View Post
    Hi,

    I'm sorry that some of you have problems with it.
    There are some little bugs (theres also one that destroys your carrier logo).
    For some of you guys thinking that it has not been tested, it HAS been tested by like 10 beta testers.
    They had iPhone first gens, iPhone 3G's and iPod touches.
    It's focussed to use it on firmware 2.2, but it will probably also work on earlier 2.x firmware versions. (earlier versions have not been tested).
    About the touch settings. I feel sorry for the people that had to restore their Phone. I will put a warning on there as soon as i speak to kyle from ModMyi again.

    @ Jim Danner

    I am 1 from iFoneguide
    Hi iMario, my criticism was that a careful home test by yourself would have revealed that some settings simply don't exist in 2.x anymore, and that other settings can create problems. Even without testing, you could have found that out by reading forums like this one. We have known since January that the Settings application, regardless how its plist files are modified, cannot undo its own changes to the carrier name. This is because it introduces a variable that, by its sheer existence, makes the official carrier name invisible, and Settings can't delete any variables.

    I'm disappointed that you have now released an "update" of your package that doesn't delete the Fake Carrier element. There is a perfectly suitable application for that element (MakeItMine), and you're creating problems for a lot of people by leaving this in. Same story with the Touch menu: Apple left this hidden for a reason, and your decision to unhide it just creates problems.

    One other thing: your copyright notices in the modified plist files are simply ludicrous. 90% of the content is by Apple, and all the other content has already been released by others (most of it around December 2007-January 2008). You know you don't own a "copyright" on a few keys you have filled with strings from Apple's firmware -- don't make a fool of yourself.

    Having said that, I wish you a good new year.

    EDIT: Here is something else that does work, you could add it to your next update: http://www.modmyi.com/forums/file-mo...rama-mode.html
    Last edited by Jim Danner; 12-30-2008 at 03:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Danner View Post
    Hi iMario, my criticism was that a careful home test by yourself would have revealed that some settings simply don't exist in 2.x anymore, and that other settings can create problems. Even without testing, you could have found that out by reading forums like this one. We have known since January that the Settings application, regardless how its plist files are modified, cannot undo its own changes to the carrier name. This is because it introduces a variable that, by its sheer existence, makes the official carrier name invisible, and Settings can't delete any variables.

    I'm disappointed that you have now released an "update" of your package that doesn't delete the Fake Carrier element. There is a perfectly suitable application for that element (MakeItMine), and you're creating problems for a lot of people by leaving this in. Same story with the Touch menu: Apple left this hidden for a reason, and your decision to unhide it just creates problems.

    One other thing: your copyright notices in the modified plist files are simply ludicrous. 90% of the content is by Apple, and all the other content has already been released by others (most of it around December 2007-January 2008). You know you don't own a "copyright" on a few keys you have filled with strings from Apple's firmware -- don't make a fool of yourself.

    Having said that, I wish you a good new year.

    EDIT: Here is something else that does work, you could add it to your next update: http://www.modmyi.com/forums/file-mo...rama-mode.html
    I'm already working on a new update (which deletes the fake carrier part).
    And, i have some new extras...
    I already had some new transitions and photo slideshow times, that's part of the extras. I will check your link out also.

    It will be up on Cydia soon (don't know exactly when, asa ModMyi responds!)

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    It seems iMario has taken the criticism serious. The latest version (1.1.8) leaves out settings that are non-functional (Album shuffle), or potentially damaging (Fake carrier) (and most of the "copyright" notices), while including some other, interesting settings. Well done!

    I'm still somewhat unhappy with the presence of the Touch (Sensitivity) menu -- it will probably tempt a few users into making their touchscreen very hard to use; it should come with clear instructions or not at all. And pre-formatted fake time strings like "Wanksta"... well, if people want that they can type it themselves, can't they? Also the big "Welcome" at the top of the added menu is... well... not in the best style.

    Anyway, it's much better than version 1.0, and here are a few further suggestions:

    • Some Cydia applications put their settings in the main Settings menu, in /Applications/Preferences.app/Settings-iPhone.plist. This is done e.g. by PocketTouch, Siphon and Stack. The Supreme Preference theme obviously overrides these additions, making those settings unusable. You could argue that it's a bad idea from those developers to put their settings there -- but they do it. One way around this is to leave the main menu unchanged and put the link to the "supreme preferences" submenu somewhere else, e.g. in General. (I know it takes a bit more modesty, but it is better for your users...). In any event, it makes sense to have the Sound Effects On/Off switch in the Sounds menu.
    • Some of the labels are somewhat confusing: "Carrier Strength" really means "Numeric carrier strength", same with WiFi strength; the descriptions of the slideshow transitions don't say much (here's what I suggest:
      Code:
      <array>
                      <string>None</string>
                      <string>Flip horizontally</string>
                      <string>Flip vertically</string>
                      <string>Twist</string>
                      <string>Camera shutter</string>
                      <string>Flash/mix</string>
                      <string>Zoom in</string>
                      <string>Zoom out</string>
                      <string>Turn (vertical axis)</string>
                      <string>Turn (horizontal axis)</string>
                      <string>Cube</string>
                      <string>Fade</string>
                      <string>Ripple</string>
                      <string>Wipe Across</string>
                      <string>Wipe Down</string>
                  </array>
      ; and there's no explanation what Sound effects are.
    • Home Button still lacks the default choice that the iPhone uses out-of-the-box: Phone Favorites. Also, it makes more sense to put the "iPod Controls" setting there at the bottom (it has to do with double-clicking Home); the text "When playing music, show iPod controls instead" also makes more sense there. (Where it is now, "instead" doesn't mean anything: instead of what?)
    • Why have submenus for simple On/Off choices like Save iTunes password, Emoji, Auto-Correction, Enable 3G (which is in the 2G package because...?). Every submenu is another tap for the user...
    • I figured out a way to choose the system font in Settings (as well as other "themable" properties like status/navigation bar style, icon label colour, font sizes). If you're interested, I'll tell you more.
    • There are still other useful settings you could add. For example, with Bundles/com.apple.schedulesettings/ScheduleSettings.plist you could introduce more fetch frequencies (Every minute, Every 5 minutes etc.)

    Anyway, I hope you will keep improving this. It's good that someone is spending time to make an up-to-date settings package with the maximum number of options.
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    Hey Jim,

    As always, i'm working on updates.
    There will be a new update on Cydia, this tuesday-thursday.

    Some wrong texting stuff, like ''Carrier Strength'', is my bad english i guess... (I'm dutch).
    I read every mail that i get from the users, and i listen to them.

    Here's some stuff that the next update includes:

    - Categories in the Supreme Preferences part. Cleans everything up, and then it's not a big mess.
    - More Fetch Mail refreshing times (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, and 30 minutes. 1, 12, and 24 hours).
    - More 'double-click' Home Button options, website category is added, also an option to type in any website you want. screenie:


    Also some more standard options are added to the ''Stock category'' Like Phone Favorites etc... More are added, like: iPod Albums, Podcasts, Videos, Phone Contacts, Phone Keypad.
    - There are more Restrictions added. 3 Categories, all Stock apps are added, and the most populair App Store and Cydia applications.
    - Info added to the Touch Settings.
    - And theres even more...

    O, yeah, about the apps like 'Stack' and such, that adds settings to the iPhone's Settings-iPhone.plist.
    I found that out, but theres not much i can do.
    If all my files would go directly into the Preferences.app, it would be no problem. But since my theme works via WinterBoard, it overwrite that (but you already knew that).
    Hmm, i don't know how to fix that or anything, but i'm not gonna move my Supreme Preferences to General...
    I could basically say the same thing about their extra option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMario View Post
    Hmm, i don't know how to fix that or anything, but i'm not gonna move my Supreme Preferences to General...
    I could basically say the same thing about their extra option.
    Well, I don't think that is entirely fair -- these programs really add their settings at the bottom of the existing settings menu when they're installed. They do not overwrite or replace anything! That's why you can have the Siphon settings and the PocketTouch settings and the Stack settings in the main menu. See the picture:

    It is done during installation of these programs. They run the program with an option: /Applications/PocketTouch.app/PocketTouch --installPrefBundle. The relevant section is then added to Settings-iPhone.plist. Quite carefully done, with respect for other program's settings.
    Your supreme settings, however, simply throw all that out...

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    It's fixed in the next update

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    Default Version 1.5

    The new version has got some nice improvements, but unfortunately it also re-introduces old (and new) errors.

    On the plus side:

    • The package adds some useful settings. Hide images in Safari, save iTunes store password, the well-known status bar tweaks (numeric battery/GSM/Wifi strength), auto-dim time, alternative things to happen after a Home Button double-click, enabling Emoji icons.

    Somewhere between good and bad:

    • The settings for Siphon, PocketTouch and Stack (and two other Cydia apps) can now be accessed again. But they have been relegated to the oddly named "Add-ons" submenu (iMario's ego is still too big to put his own additions in a submenu), and the consequence is that other Cydia applications that want to make their settings available are still unable to do it. Who knows how many applications try to put a menu in Settings and can't now...
    • A lot of the settings (maybe half of them) seem to be there just to have a lot of settings. They serve no real purpose. For instance, who would search for an application in App Store by opening Settings... Supreme preferences... Applications... Apple... App store search, typing the search string there, then closing Settings, and then opening App Store? Nobody. You'd start App Store, go to Search, and type it there.
    • Some settings have been moved around for no apparent purpose. Usage went from General to the main menu, why? And worse, the Home Button double-click menu doesn't have the setting for iPod controls anymore ("when playing music, show iPod controls instead"). While this setting is primarily related to double-clicking the Home Button, it has been moved to a submenu of the supreme preferences submenu. Complete with the text, which as I said before makes no sense there ("instead" of what?).
    • Donate button... Do you really want that in an application that is 90% Apple?

    On the minus side, there are a few serious disappointments in this new version.

    • The Touch submenu is still activated. It comes with a warning that you will have to restore the phone, but as long as it doesn't come with detailed instructions about how it works and what the controls are for, this will still lead to lots of problems like these and these. If it's so dangerous it will make you restore, it shouldn't be there. If it's there, people will use it and get into trouble.
    • A new addition is "Disable device until next sync with iTunes". That's one good reason not to install this! What if you're at a party and someone is playing with your phone and sets this... You'll have to go without a phone until you get home.
    • Oh no, the Fake Carrier is back. Another risky and stupid ego-trip by the guy who put this together. For many users, just opening the Supreme preferences... Phone submenu will blank their carrier logo. Some can get it back by using Make it Mine, but as post #9 above tells us, it isn't always that simple. What a bummer.

    Altogether, this is still not generally usable. Who can make a no-nonsense, no-danger version?
    Last edited by Jim Danner; 02-13-2009 at 01:27 PM.
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    mmkay...

    I agree there are some settings that aren't 'very usefull'.
    They are just funny to have. But thanks for your feedback, i'll try to improve it.
    I can probably easilly fix the extra app settings (like siphone, stack ect). PreferenceLoader is very handy for this! And i will look into it, AGAIN..

    As for Usage, that i've moved to the main settings: it's just easier, why would you want to launch settings > go to general > then hit Usage.
    It's easier to launch settings and hit Usage inmediatly.
    (Yes, now you probably will answer with the App Store searcher and stuff... But that's actually easy when you are there, you know you want to go to the App Store next after you've left the settings.. so you can type something in and it will show up in the App Store).
    As for Fake Carrier, it's just a handy tweak, i got a lot of emails after i deleted the tweak. People wanted that one back. (didn't got any when i putted it back in, like remove it or something). there aren't any bugs with it anymore, like dissapearing carriers/logos. Restoring to normal can be done with MIM, or typing in the original carrier name by yourself (restore to logos must be done with MIM)
    And i moved the iPod Controls settings to Supreme Preferences > iPod. Because it has more to do with the iPod...

    I can't make everyone happy...

    If you want, mock something up, so it's easier for me to see how i can improve it.

    Note that it's not the final release yet. I hope you'll be happy when that one has been released.

    (PS: sorry if my english was F*up, but it's kinda late right now...)

    ~iMario
    Last edited by iMario; 02-18-2009 at 02:05 AM.


 

 
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