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    Does every application on the ste site meet the independent compile requirements?


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    Quote Originally Posted by enjoyevo View Post
    i know this may sound weird, but suddenly my lockbox password stopped working.
    i am ABSOLUTELY certain that im using the correct password, which may sound impossible technical wise, but ive been using this app for a while and it suddenly started me saying that i was inputting an incorrect password, i tried reinstalling and no luck, how do i recover lockbox funcionality? even if i lose all data in it? Thanks
    Hmm, anything in particular you did before this started to happen? It should show a different error if the file can't be read or opened, vs not unencrypted, but, there could be issues there.

    I wrote a wiki page up on how to delete your passwords off the device. http://code.google.com/p/iphonelockb...tabaseDeletion

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    Quote Originally Posted by rklosinski View Post
    Does every application on the ste site meet the independent compile requirements?
    No. He says he inspects all the applications, but he's not a developer, and doesn't have the toolchain to compile.

    Quote Originally Posted by realo View Post
    Please abide by their request for independent compilation of the binaries.
    I wouldn't mind, if it actually was going to happen, but right now it's not. Developers he's contacted have lost interest in hosting it.

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    Hello,

    Then this is exactly what is wrong here. People here who want to have lockbox in the installer.app repositories should request the Ste to allocate the resource he requires to abide by his own rules.

    Bear in mind that this strict 'independent compile' requirement probably only comes up because of the sensitive nature of the lockbox.

    Ste: Are you reading this? You are right. Your request for independent compile is required. Provide resource to achieve this. Thank you.

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    Interesting debate- but I'm with STE on this one. I realize it's open code, and I think it's a great app- but I would feel tons better knowing that the compiled code I'm loading is based on the actual code that's published

    It's one thing to hack into my contacts and txt msgs- it's another to access the type of sensitive information

    Unless you are prepared to donate $ to STE, he is doing a service to all of us, and I for one am grateful he's being careful.

    In the meantime, I cannot see the issue behind a warning- seems a reasonable compromise

    Frankly, if another hoster were willing to do this without these safeguards I would not download ANY of their apps.


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    I think the idea of "install" is a great one, but as more and more programs come out and the complexity increases, it will be impossible to review all the these applications to that level; and at some point you are going to have to trust the developers.

    Look at devices like WinMobile or Palm, they don't have that kinda of review process because there are just way too many programs to review, iPhone will hopefully/eventually go this way with so many apps, that the "install" system just will not work.

    But thats just my opinion, time will tell... though maybe for a sensitive app like this its worth waiting for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsanchezj View Post
    Interesting debate- but I'm with STE on this one. I realize it's open code, and I think it's a great app- but I would feel tons better knowing that the compiled code I'm loading is based on the actual code that's published

    It's one thing to hack into my contacts and txt msgs- it's another to access the type of sensitive information

    Unless you are prepared to donate $ to STE, he is doing a service to all of us, and I for one am grateful he's being careful.

    In the meantime, I cannot see the issue behind a warning- seems a reasonable compromise

    Frankly, if another hoster were willing to do this without these safeguards I would not download ANY of their apps.
    I won't comment on the other applications available through install.app and the repos but it is true, I would NOT trust an application to host my most secret information if somebody else wouldn't somehow guarantee for it. There is a reason why Lockbox has been "judged" differently because it is one thing to mess up your iPhone or get your contacts stolen but a completely different issue if somebody takes your most secret information like passwords, credit card information, etc. and stores it in an application which can't be verified. Sorry but I personally think that the Lockbox author should bite into the sour apple. If there is a specific reason (commercial reason?) behind this, he should tell us. I don't have anything against companies charging money for good software but I really don't want to end up with a software which is in fact a trojan, sending my most secret stuff to a third party. Considering the fact that he iPhone is actually online all the time when it is on and ready to receive calls, this is way too dangerous for me, sorry.

    Lockdown could be a great application, the programmer just needs to understand the special security needs users have. If a donation helps to improve lockdown and to put it onto the installer.app repo, I'm willing to donate, no problem. I know that some programmers don't agree with the Nullriver stuff but to be honest, without them, most of the currently available stuff would be available to real command line pros only.

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    Do we know if any of the software on ste site is based upon the published code?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rklosinski View Post
    Do we know if any of the software on ste site is based upon the published code?
    Not sure what you mean but the software is usually downloaded through the repos.
    Lockdown could really be a great application and it is already promising (it IS availabel now through the Installer.app!!!) but I still have a very bad feeling about entering my most secret information into a non-commercial program from a somehow unknown programmer (no offense meant!).
    This is one of the applications I actually don't really use yet (I have it on my iPhone for testing puporses and so far it seems to work great) because I still don't like using "free" security software for various reasons.

    On the other hand, I would really love to have such an application from a trusted source, so maybe the author has an idea how to raise the trust level. I wouldn't even mind paying for this software, this is actually one of the few applications I would pay for IF security is somehow guaranteed and certified.

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    What I mean is how can we make sure that ANY piece of software we download is not transmitting data. I use my iphone to do banking and stock trading. I really dont want any application sending data my personal information.

    I'm happy that the ste site has high standards, but so far, I'm not sure that its the solutions. I have tried 3 apps from the site that hung my iphone and required me to power off to recover. How do I know that one of these will not brick my phone?


 

 

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