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    Set apart the funnies stories, exchanging files is probably the most important function in a good smart phone, not to talk about business phone, obviously after making phone calls and receiving messages [something where the iphone is already lame]

    I think we can forget Apple to fix this any soon since they are so worried about us infringing copyright sending songs around...

    WHAT SONGS!!! UNCLE STEVE WHAT ABOUT MY $%^$& PICTURES, NOTES, CONTACTS, INFO and all other things we exchange in the daily life as social beings.
    What is the point of loading a phone with such an amazing OS when you can do the things you have set the phone to do with a simple PLC?

    When Erica did a poll on what is the most sought after app, the phone Bluetooth came out first. I think this means something and it can't be ignored.

    Please guys, let's give a look into this...


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    yeah. I don't miss mms or other basic features that's missing.

    The first thing I notice is the "lack of" Bluetooth functions.
    Most 3 yrs old phone can transfer photos via bluetooth. Come on!!

    Bluetooth for photos, contacts transfer is a Must! I hope Apple listens to the users. I filled out their feedback form but I doubt we'll see anything anytime soon.

    Look at the pretty simple multiple recipient sms feature. It's been 6 months and Nothing!

    I think bluetooth file transfer will come with iphone2. Don't think Apple will address it for the first gen iphone.

    Apple likes to simplifies things and take out features that's too complicated OR not useful. It usually works out great. But bluetooth file transfer is a must! Come one Steve, if you don't use that feature, doesn't mean most user don't use it. If you think file transfer is too complicated for you, doesn't mean it's too complicated to most average users!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostello View Post
    Now, picture this:

    It's one of those Xmas gatherings, sitting in front of John and Me you have a gift from god: Sheila [right it's xmas] We thought she was the sister of Monica Bellucci.
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    "Wow! you got an iphone... cool, can I see... can you take my picture... " [now she mimics Sharon Stone, making the picture taking process difficult]
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    post the pitcure first and then we'll have a go at the programming!

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    ... seems like the forum has censorship active since it does not let me upload the picture, not even a reduce 30k jif...

    ...But I am indeed proud of you guys that we let old solid values drive our quest! We might even propose to Sheila to offer herself to the cause!

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    Arrow question for XianLi

    Quote Originally Posted by XianLi View Post
    I've been digging in the iPhone's bluetooth (BTserver, BT frameworks and related files).

    To simplify, it looks like we'll have to wait for Apple to add the services in the BT stack (PDA-sync and serial).

    The iPhone can pair with BT enabled computers, but nothing can be done for now.
    Does this mean that it can't be done till apple publish their own framework?

    If the Dev team can put together such a brilliant app such the installer can't anyone work out a full blast bluetooth protocol on the iphone?


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    Get coding then......

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    Quote Originally Posted by iphonedev View Post
    Get coding then......
    I am downloading my first GUI manual... tonite

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    http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/ip...ing-274068.php

    an interesting post there as well at the end specifically about what Apple are using for Bluetooth Stack

    Perhaps the real question behind this thread is: "WHY is the Bluetooth on the iPhone SO crippled?" Scan the first page of the voluminous Legal disclaimer (Settings>About>Legal) on the iPhone and it lists the Bluetooth license as BlueMagic from Open Interface. Check out the company site, and it's obvious that the software stack supports every Bluetooth profile and protocol under the sun. So *why* did Apple disable all those capabilities? (For instance, you mentioned the Motorola S9s for wireless stereo - how come a cheap (relatively) Motorola phone support this great music feature, but the oh-so-hip iPhone doesn't??) Are they just waiting until all the official Apple BT accessories are ready for sale?
    And this is what the iPhone COULD be capable of utilising....

    http://www.oi-us.com/Uploads/File/Bluemagic_Brief.pdf
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    I dug a little more and found some more information.

    The bluetooth is a CSR (Cambridge Silicon Radio) 41B14 BlueCore4ROM chipset

    http://www.csrsupport.com/DataSheets#s139

    The bluetool folder contains 3 script files

    /etc/bluetool/deepsleep.script
    /etc/bluetool/dutmode.script
    /etc/bluetool/init.script
    They contain init and PSKEY values to init/setup the chipset.

    I've found the complete list of PSKEY values for the CSR chipset here:
    https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/pr...o6/tools/csr.h

    Bluez (Bluetooth protocol stack for Linux) is worth to take a look at.

    https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/pr...ils-3.9-osso4/

    I'm trying now to find a way to activate/enable services.

    http://developer.apple.com/documenta...section_4.html

    Found some more info, looks like there is only one service (BluetoothAudioJack) available in the BT stack.

    http://ericasadun.com/iPhoneDocs112/files.html (search for Bluetooth).

    CSR support home page:

    http://www.csrsupport.com/

    i've noticed that when i pair the iPhone with my laptop using bluetooth, the phone lose the wifi connection until i turn bluetooth off.
    Last edited by Former Bender; 01-05-2008 at 07:34 AM.

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    This is a great kick start!

    For what i see on the document the 41B14 BlueCore4ROM chipset is capable of supporting all the function that we would like to see on the iphone and probably more.
    It's again the same sort of situation that you have having a full OS X and not making use of it.

    Anyway, the issue then is pure coding. Which at least make things feasible.

    Now looking at the feedback from iphonedev:

    And this is what the iPhone COULD be capable of utilising....

    http://www.oi-us.com/Uploads/File/Bluemagic_Brief.pdf
    would it be possible to port the Bluemagic set and save big amount of work?


 

 

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