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    Wow, you seem very well educated. And congratulations on the baby! I will add you as a candidate for coder. If you have any iPhone apps that you have ever made could you upload them to rapid$hare or another host site and pm me the link so I could preview your app(s)

    I will be able to do more on Sunday as tomorow is another busy day. So I will try to stay as up to date as possible.

    Thank you everyone! I am going to get some sort of donation system or something set up just in case somebody wants to help give us a little extra push. I don't have a Mac and ca't get my hakcintosh to work so I may try to get a Mac.

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    DJ McG, dude, you haven't even written a hello world app and you're trying to make a dev team? In another thread, you were already "accepting beta applications" for a Landscape.app when you didn't even have the freaking toolchain installed. lol. And when someone asked if you wrote an app, you said, "Not yet lol." Even your signature doesn't even make sense - "Objective-C on windows"? You mean using the toolchain on windows, which uses Objective-C with the API's from the iPhone, which anyone can use the same objective-c codebase and the toolchain on windows or linux or leopard (With lockbox I had my toolchain I was using on Ubuntu, but someone provided patches and he was using 10.4 I believe).

    Look, read some books on coding and programing and computer science. Start with hello world applications. Understand the basics, and slowly work your way up. Make small self-contained GUI apps. Then think about apps that augment other functionality, and realize that you cannot disassemble applications to high level code like Objective-C without debug symbols, lol. Just, you don't have a proper concept of the reality of coding, but that you try to waste other people's time with your non-skills is prompting me to post and put a stop to this insanity.
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    First off let me tell you I appreciate your advice. But I cannot buy any books right now.

    Secondly, I have been trying to find guides, tutorials, or videos to help me learn to code. I have downloaded and put all of the iPhone ADC videos from iTunes on my iPhone. I have watched several of them, but I have been very busy lately and some of them are 20 minutes long. I haven't been very lucky finding guides/tutorials/videos and source code and exmaple codes to use and look at. I am definitely going to work with some hello world apps etc.

    Again, thank you. Thumbs up for you

    P.S. I changed my signature to asking for source code and example codes and links to guides/tutorials/videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phylar View Post
    DJ McG, dude, you haven't even written a hello world app and you're trying to make a dev team?
    Phylar: you could be a master coder and not have the organization skills to pull together a dev team. Likewise, you could have the organizaton and motivation to pull together a dev team without knowing any code. Go big man.

    DJ McG: I have been coding for awhile and just got into iphone development. I do have the toolchain compiled and have made a couple little apps. If you still need another coder, I would love to contribute. However, I think you should aim a little higher than the apps you mention in your first post. Personally, I have been toying with the thought of hacking together a userspace bluetooth stack out of different open source projects and making an OBEX transfer app, something the iphone is sorely lacking.

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    Yes, bluetooth transfer would be AMAZING. But I think that is a little bit out of my league for now lol. I will add you as a candidate for coder. The head coder will be chosen when I see apps people have made and whoever has made the best app will get head coder, for now anyways. Thanks for your interest. We could work on making an OBEX Bluetooth file transfer app later though, once I am more skilled.


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    You have a lot of enthusiasm, which is great, and I applaud you for it. I really think its a great idea to form a group of beginning programmers with specific focus on the iPhone. Like others have said, it would probably be a better idea to ease into it, instead of making promises that you don't necessarily have the credentials to live up to yet. Something like this, for example...
    Blocking out the rest with superiority
    ...is not something that I would expect someone with no programming experience to say to a seasoned hardcore developer.

    I do really think the team is a good idea, mainly because I'm in the same boat as you. I would really like to learn how to program for the iPhone, but I have no idea where to start.

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    Thank you very much. Yeah, that does make sence lol It didn't even really sound that great, I just thought of that off of the top of my head. But yeah I will edit that out Thanks for that. Are you on a Mac or PC? It seems to me that it'd be easier on a Mac, just because you don't have to go back and forth from the iPhone to test the apps. You could use the SDk and simulator. I wish I had a Mac. The next computer I get is going to be a Mac.

    Again, thanks for your input.


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    Although I see a lack of skill there is nothing that can't be acommplished with great teamwork and some knowledge. I aplaude you guys on your efforts. You guys look like you have a long road ahead of you but with the right skills I am sure you can do great things. Good luck to you guys.....
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    Thanks )law(, I think if we get people who will work hard and work together we can learn a lot more than if we all worked on our lonesomes. Plus, it'll be more education because once one of us learns something we can share with the rest.


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    That's good your doing the tutorials and watching the videos. I personally didn't get an objective-c book, but it's up to the person. Books are good for the full view and "Zen of" things when really reading something that someone has thought out A to B is useful, but often good tutorials easily suffice

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ McG View Post
    I have been very busy lately and some of them are 20 minutes long.
    If you can't take 20 minutes to watch a video, how can you have time to run a dev team? To fully think about a good UI or all the use cases for your software? To hunt down that particularly hard bug? There are good reasons why 61% of software projects fail - software development is hard. It takes alot more time and energy than you're thinking.
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