After seeing so many people ready and willing to put up cash for the software unlock, I think it is time to discuss some things so you can at the very least be an informed buyer.

Based on the information available, it is highly probable that the software unlock from iphonesimfree works is very similar to the way the Geohot hardware unlock works.

When you touch the two points with needles in the hardware unlock, what you are doing is tricking the baseband chip into letting you change some of the memory inside it. Then as soon as the chip is fooled it is programmed to skip checking that the sim matches the AT&T network. Voila, unlock.

Now the way iphonesimfree most likely works is to use a software trick on the baseband chip instead of the hardware needle trick. This could be as simple as sending a few commands in the right order with the right timing. Once the chip is fooled, the rest of the process is the same: reprogram it to skip checking the sim.

The only way to communicate with the baseband chip is over a serial connection. This means that whatever the iphonesimfree software is saying to the chip can be eavesdropped on, either by a hardware or software method. So once someone knows what the software trick is, any of the talented devs can write their own software to do the same. One of Geohot's programs could be modified with the new code in only a few minutes.

So the software is going to be reverse engineered very quickly. And someone will release it for free. Everyone should donate a dollar to the pool and let the dev team have the 50 licenses for reverse engineering.

There is very little (none) chance that iphonesimfree has done all of this work on their own. They are using a huge amount of knowledge and many tools that have been released for free. So why do they deserve all the money?

Save your money, wait for the free unlock, and give a few bucks to charity.

Originally Posted by az1324

After seeing so many people ready and willing to put up cash for the software unlock, I think it is time to discuss some things so you can at the very least be an informed buyer.

Based on the information available, it is highly probable that the software unlock from iphonesimfree works is very similar to the way the Geohot hardware unlock works.

When you touch the two points with needles in the hardware unlock, what you are doing is tricking the baseband chip into letting you change some of the memory inside it. Then as soon as the chip is fooled it is programmed to skip checking that the sim matches the AT&T network. Voila, unlock.

Now the way iphonesimfree most likely works is to use a software trick on the baseband chip instead of the hardware needle trick. This could be as simple as sending a few commands in the right order with the right timing. Once the chip is fooled, the rest of the process is the same: reprogram it to skip checking the sim.

The only way to communicate with the baseband chip is over a serial connection. This means that whatever the iphonesimfree software is saying to the chip can be eavesdropped on, either by a hardware or software method. So once someone knows what the software trick is, any of the talented devs can write their own software to do the same. One of Geohot's programs could be modified with the new code in only a few minutes.

So the software is going to be reverse engineered very quickly. And someone will release it for free. Everyone should donate a dollar to the pool and let the dev team have the 50 licenses for reverse engineering.

There is very little (none) chance that iphonesimfree has done all of this work on their own. They are using a huge amount of knowledge and many tools that have been released for free. So why do they deserve all the money?

Save your money, wait for the free unlock, and give a few bucks to charity.

Your thoughts are very true!

If this in fact is a working software, it should be easily reversed.
Only fetching the command sendt from the ipsf server to initiate the unlock should be enough for devs to reverse it, and make it avilable.

As said: Save your money, and donate not to charity, but to the devs who have done all the hard work on the iphone.

But you have all missed the point.

I bought the iPhone by convincing the wife that within a few weeks i would using it as a fully operation phone.....so 36 bucks is a small price to pay for a possibility to stop the nagging.....

Originally Posted by hkbloke

But you have all missed the point.

I bought the iPhone by convincing the wife that within a few weeks i would using it as a fully operation phone.....so 36 bucks is a small price to pay for a possibility to stop the nagging.....

If everyone here sendt their 36$ to the DEV's we most likeley would have a solution, replacing their phone that got bricked, and buying them a few more energy-drinks to keep em awake a few more hours a nite. Noone is nagging.

I think the devteam made a mistake by stopping the progress reports on the website. People start to get the impression that they have hit a brick wall.

My wife is nagging....'you spent 600 dollars on that bloody thing and you still can't make an f*&$ing phone call on it'

Amen i hear ya man. I get the same response from my wife, nephew, uncles, strangers they are relentless but they still like the iphone.

You need to tell the missus that it's an essential productivity enhancing device, and that if she went and got herself a job, she could have one too.

Originally Posted by az1324

After seeing so many people ready and willing to put up cash for the software unlock, I think it is time to discuss some things so you can at the very least be an informed buyer.

Based on the information available, it is highly probable that the software unlock from iphonesimfree works is very similar to the way the Geohot hardware unlock works.

When you touch the two points with needles in the hardware unlock, what you are doing is tricking the baseband chip into letting you change some of the memory inside it. Then as soon as the chip is fooled it is programmed to skip checking that the sim matches the AT&T network. Voila, unlock.

Now the way iphonesimfree most likely works is to use a software trick on the baseband chip instead of the hardware needle trick. This could be as simple as sending a few commands in the right order with the right timing. Once the chip is fooled, the rest of the process is the same: reprogram it to skip checking the sim.

The only way to communicate with the baseband chip is over a serial connection. This means that whatever the iphonesimfree software is saying to the chip can be eavesdropped on, either by a hardware or software method. So once someone knows what the software trick is, any of the talented devs can write their own software to do the same. One of Geohot's programs could be modified with the new code in only a few minutes.

So the software is going to be reverse engineered very quickly. And someone will release it for free. Everyone should donate a dollar to the pool and let the dev team have the 50 licenses for reverse engineering.

There is very little (none) chance that iphonesimfree has done all of this work on their own. They are using a huge amount of knowledge and many tools that have been released for free. So why do they deserve all the money?

Save your money, wait for the free unlock, and give a few bucks to charity.

This could be true, but if it takes more than 2 days to reverse engineer and make it free, the $36 is worth it to me, and the many others who have been waiting...

Originally Posted by croatsensation1

Amen i hear ya man. I get the same response from my wife, nephew, uncles, strangers they are relentless but they still like the iphone.

LMAO. Yep and idiot co-workers.

Originally Posted by az1324

Everyone should donate a dollar to the pool and let the dev team have the 50 licenses for reverse engineering.

based on that idea I would suggest the following procedure:

1. a credible member (e.g. sam) opens a thread and provides us with a separate Email for donations (Paypal). As soon as $1800 are reached the money is used to buy 50 licences. The rest will be donated to the Dev Team (same if $ 1.800 are not reached). Meanwhile all the bulk orders should be on hold.

2. the credible member checks if the unlocking works. Two possibilities:

a. it works. Those who can't wait can proceed with the bulk orders. Dev Team uses the information to complete the free unlock. The 50 Licences are donated to the Dev Team.

b. it's scam. It took us only $1 to $5 per person to find out.