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Old 03-25-2008, 12:13 AM
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This isn't about the piracy, but relating to jailbreaking...


Apple's EULA/TOS != US Law/Constitution
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Ok, well first off. If you purchased your PC or iPhone or whatever, then it YOURS to do whatever you want with. You own it and it is your property. So legally you can do whatever you want with it, destroy it, take it apart, hack it, mod it, whatever. That is not illegal. There is nothing illegal involved in jailbreaking an iPhone, reverse engineering an app to crack it could be considered copyright infringement though. The only consequences of jailbreaking your iPhone are from Apple, bricked phone, voided warranty etc. It is against their Terms and EULA.

On the other hand, putting OSX on a PC is ONLY ILLEGAL IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE. Then it would be copyright infringement and they could possibly sue you for stealing software. But if you have a legit license and install OSX on your PC the only rules you are breaking are the Terms and Conditions and the EULA. Apple cannot do anything to you except for possibly revoke your license or not give you updates.

I hope this has cleared some things up.

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That is all true, but there is no license from Apple for OS X that would allow installation on non-Apple hardware. Whether you buy it or not, you are breaking the license agreement.
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well...as long as theres not direct links here to any pirated software, but I think they're closing it not only because of direct links (I wonder who complained) guess somebody of the mods is friend with somebody...dont see any other reason if theres no direct links to delete every posting. Cum oon! Hackintosh, right? live up to your name at least
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That is all true, but there is no license from Apple for OS X that would allow installation on non-Apple hardware. Whether you buy it or not, you are breaking the license agreement.
The subject of this claim is what is hot - what makes Apple hardware Apple hardware? Name a part of an apple computer that is "made by apple". You can't. It's all third party. Intel makes the processors. Broadcom or Atheros makes the wireless cards. Asus and Quanta make the cases. Realtek makes the sound. Matsushita/aka Panasonic makes the dvd drive. Hitachi makes the hard drive. Marvell makes the lan card. They run off of ICH7 mobos, so usb is intel and firewire is agere. Bleh, you get the point. If that is all Apple hardware, then what makes Apple hardware Apple hardware? an EULA is an EULA, worth nothing in court, and the reason why Apple hasn't sued Psystar? because other than a TPM chip, there's not much difference at all. It all comes down to the Apple logo being placed on 3rd party hardware that's also used to make other brand name PCs, and that's why they would fail in a law suit.

If I'm incorrect about anything legal wise here let me know, I'm just saying what I've learned so far by studying the legal aspects of this situation. Boogahoo!
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well...as long as theres not direct links here to any pirated software, but I think they're closing it not only because of direct links (I wonder who complained) guess somebody of the mods is friend with somebody...dont see any other reason if theres no direct links to delete every posting. Cum oon! Hackintosh, right? live up to your name at least
One solution I thought wouldn't be that bad of an idea, is to only provide ppfs based off of the original leopard dvd. that way, custom dvds are only legit if you have the original dvd (assuming you bought it, hence you have a license to use that copy of leopard that you bought). Will that stop the piracy? Probably not. It would however promote the possibility of running os x on a pc without becoming a software pirate. Oh wells. I personally think that someone would rather download a copy without having a license to use it versus someone buying a copy of leopard and downloading the copy without even having to open up the plastic wrapping on the box. So by only providing a patch to the dvd image, it will probably help people feel a little safer with what they are doing by having to get the original dvd.
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The subject of this claim is what is hot - what makes Apple hardware Apple hardware?
The copyrighted and proprietary Apple EFI boot code is the only thing that makes an Apple Computer.
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No its not, the EFI is made by Intel and a PE object that is loaded by the EFI is made by 2 Apple Engineers. In other words EFI is made by Intel and a MODULE that EFI loads is made by Apple. That module is one that displays the boot menu when you hold the left option key down during boot. There is a 2nd module also made by Apple which is the "target mode" module that EFI loads turning your mac into a firewire target device disk. Finally I hate everytime I see this but TPM (Trust Platform Module) "Chip" is not in any mac out side of the original Core Duo and Core Solo units. Any mac with a Core 2 Duo and Xeon does NOT have TPM.
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