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Old 08-26-2009, 01:23 AM
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Default Please: list of required kexts, and those to be removed

As stated in the past before the thread went dormant for a while, I'm trying to create a NON-iDeneb installation. I know many seem to be perfectly happy downloading fractured and hacked OS X from the internet with modified kernels, but it's not necessary and ultimately not secure. You can use retail OS X with a bootloader like chameleon, and the right modified/replaced kexts.

Currently, I have a retail OSX install on an NB205-210, and am working out the method to create an EFI boot partition (via munky's method) so that the main OSX partition is 100% vanilla. Creating the EFI partition was easy, but I need to be 100% certain about the process and kexts before I activate that partition as the boot partition.

The only things not working right now on my "vanilla" install, as stated before:
1. trackpad only works as a mouse
2. sound out works okay (not great) before sleep, then stutters after sleep
3. time machine error (not fixed with time machine fix hack).
4. atheros wifi doesn't work (should work under 10.6, from what I hear)

I got it all working with an actual mac, a retail OS X disk, a few items from the essentials pack and DellEFI installer (which installs chameleon and a few fixes). Some items from the essentials pack make the computer unusable however so i leave them out, so trying to sort that out, too. For example, if I stick with the DellEFI installed graphics support, everything is fine. If I use the graphics support from the Essentials pack, display renders in dots and lines and is unusable.

But to make my method work completely and fix those problems, I need to know what kexts are installed by iDeneb that are not included in the "essentials" package, and what kexts are removed by iDeneb.

In other words, the essentials pack has all the essentials, but it doesn't explain if anything else needs to be installed or removed from a vanilla install, as it relies on the iDeneb distro to work.

If I can get this info by the weekend, I can start on a Snow Leopard installation from the retail disk and possibly skip the Leopard troubleshooting, since going forward, 10.6 working is more important than perfecting 10.5.

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Old 08-26-2009, 01:26 AM
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Default BTW: SSD really makes the Toshiba fly

I've installed a Kingston V-Series 64GB, the cheapest "large" SSD on the market, and it really makes the Toshiba fly. While only 1/2 the speed of more expensive drives, for $125 including external USB case, it's a deal as SSD's go. It removes the only vital moving part in the Toshiba (meaning you can throw it across the room, onto a bed, without worry), and speeds up boot and common OS tasks dramatically. And of course you also end up with an external 160GB drive in the deal when you take the 5400rpm drive out and put it in the Kingston USB powered external case.
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:50 AM
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You can throw it across the room on bed ... original HDD have Motion SafeGuard
But maybe it's not so safe as I think

To previous post ... I dont think that edited kernel is unsafe... people what doing this work, don't want to destroy users' computers. Think on that thousands of users using iDeneb/iAtkos/iPC etc.
They are not reporting any unwanted behavior.

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Old 08-26-2009, 03:29 AM
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Can you briefly outline the steps, just so they're clear? For example:
1. Take existing setup with XP running on your NB205.
2. Boot with something, on SD card or CD, and create a new partition.
(I suggest System Rescue CD 1.2.1 on an SD card)
3. Install OS X according to instructions on this forum.
(what happens to booting in this scenario? Is Chameleon installed to the MBR and it automagically finds the XP partition so when you reboot, as you need to often when installing OS X via iDeneb 1.3, you see "XP" and "OS X" in a menu a la GRUB?)
4. With XP and OS X installed, boot to _______? and install Chameleon 2 RC2.
(Do you need to boot to Chameleon on an SD card and run install from there, or is this something you can do from within XP or OS X?)

Sorry to be a nitpicky stickler for details, but "download and install" just leaves me with a feeling of, 'yeah, but what does that MEAN?' and so I pester for as complete a set of details as possible. Less chance for interpretation and screwing up. :-)
Well i had my XP partition and i used gparted(on a USB) to shrink it. So then i had 3 partitons (XP, Recovery, Blank). Then i formatted the XP one and installed Windows 7 on it (Not important). Then i Installed iDeneb 1.3 as shown here on the second empty partition via an external DVD. Once you have finished the installation, when you Boot you get a text like partition selection(Which is Chameleon 1). The default partition is OSX, it automaticly picks up your XP installation. When you are in OSX install Chameleon 2 RC2(Download Page) within OSX, which adds a graphics selection like GRUB, on boot.
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Well i had my XP partition and i used gparted(on a USB) to shrink it. So then i had 3 partitons (XP, Recovery, Blank). Then i formatted the XP one and installed Windows 7 on it (Not important). Then i Installed iDeneb 1.3 as shown here on the second empty partition via an external DVD. Once you have finished the installation, when you Boot you get a text like partition selection(Which is Chameleon 1). The default partition is OSX, it automaticly picks up your XP installation. When you are in OSX install Chameleon 2 RC2(Download Page) within OSX, which adds a graphics selection like GRUB, on boot.
Great. THANK YOU!!! for being specific. I think that's a workable solution. I may go ahead and try it on the original drive.
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As stated in the past before the thread went dormant for a while, I'm trying to create a NON-iDeneb installation. I know many seem to be perfectly happy downloading fractured and hacked OS X from the internet with modified kernels, but it's not necessary and ultimately not secure. You can use retail OS X with a bootloader like chameleon, and the right modified/replaced kexts.

Currently, I have a retail OSX install on an NB205-210, and am working out the method to create an EFI boot partition (via munky's method) so that the main OSX partition is 100% vanilla. Creating the EFI partition was easy, but I need to be 100% certain about the process and kexts before I activate that partition as the boot partition.

The only things not working right now on my "vanilla" install, as stated before:
1. trackpad only works as a mouse
2. sound out works okay (not great) before sleep, then stutters after sleep
3. time machine error (not fixed with time machine fix hack).
4. atheros wifi doesn't work (should work under 10.6, from what I hear)

I got it all working with an actual mac, a retail OS X disk, a few items from the essentials pack and DellEFI installer (which installs chameleon and a few fixes). Some items from the essentials pack make the computer unusable however so i leave them out, so trying to sort that out, too. For example, if I stick with the DellEFI installed graphics support, everything is fine. If I use the graphics support from the Essentials pack, display renders in dots and lines and is unusable.

But to make my method work completely and fix those problems, I need to know what kexts are installed by iDeneb that are not included in the "essentials" package, and what kexts are removed by iDeneb.

In other words, the essentials pack has all the essentials, but it doesn't explain if anything else needs to be installed or removed from a vanilla install, as it relies on the iDeneb distro to work.

If I can get this info by the weekend, I can start on a Snow Leopard installation from the retail disk and possibly skip the Leopard troubleshooting, since going forward, 10.6 working is more important than perfecting 10.5.
I hope you're able to get the technical information you need and that you do post your findings. It'll definitely add to the mix of things that can be done with this little machine...ok, that sounds obvious. Of course it'll add one more way of getting OS X to run on it. What I mean is, I think it'll be good to have a very clean, standard retail disk method of installing Snow Leopard on the NB205. I'll certainly try it and would be happy to help put together the instructions (unless of course you do a stellar job out of the gate.)

Happy hunting and please report back with your progress. I'm sure there are plenty of lurkers eager for more information.
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I hope you're able to get the technical information you need and that you do post your findings. It'll definitely add to the mix of things that can be done with this little machine...ok, that sounds obvious. Of course it'll add one more way of getting OS X to run on it. What I mean is, I think it'll be good to have a very clean, standard retail disk method of installing Snow Leopard on the NB205. I'll certainly try it and would be happy to help put together the instructions (unless of course you do a stellar job out of the gate.)

Happy hunting and please report back with your progress. I'm sure there are plenty of lurkers eager for more information.
so you're saying that a completely stock nb205 should be 100%(ish) workable on snow leopard? including wifi? that would be awesome! i would be very willing to buy the retail disk for it if so
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so you're saying that a completely stock nb205 should be 100%(ish) workable on snow leopard? including wifi? that would be awesome! i would be very willing to buy the retail disk for it if so
ikramerica started it! I just said I'd help with editing and using instructions.

And I should clarify, so I'm not misrepresenting ikramerica. The clean, standard wording was mine. ikramerica did state that it'd be nice to use a regular retail disk to start, but some level of extensions and shenanigans (if even only chameleon) will most likely be necessary. As for wifi...should be possible but who knows if it'll be the atheros chip.

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well i have spent some time searching the net, and there seems to be quite a following of people who seem to think apple is going to release a version of snow leopard for 3rd party hardware. i somehow doubt they will give up their tight hold over their products, but i can dream...
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The very first day I got my NB205, I replaced the internal drive with a Seagate Momentus ST9500325AS 500gb hard drive, and an apple airport extreme mini pci-e card. The only drawback to the apple chip is the higher power useage and that it's a full length card instead of half, so the screws don't match up. I just didn't screw it in, and had no problems. I have since replaced it with the dell broadcom chip tho.

I'm definitely looking forward to trying snow leopard on this.
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