I don't think you still understand...If dev team keep talking about "we will unlock the 3g or whatever" then apple may have a way to lock it up. (get it). Just like filmware 1.1.1 remember the old day? when too many pp talking about it, and we have to finanlly came out the hardware solution. So, whatever we do....i refer to keep it secret. Learn the last lession.
can you imagine that? the phone only release 3 week and apple already update both itunes and release a new filmware.
BTW: Dev Team has released many unlock tool and never ask you for donating. Unlike others pp who selling it on ebay/their website...So, just keep it in mind and stick with the topic )

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Thanks, this is what I was assuming. The activation level is derived from the serial number. This is why T-Mobile had to tell Apple the serial # for the "real" unlocked mobil they sold (and why it took a few days) and Apple has chosen a different activation state for the unlocked iPhones, this should be the same for iPhones from Hongkong and Italy.

Maybe it's a dead end but at least worth spending some time on it...

The difference is either the HWID or NORID. Beacuse the NORID is likely hard-coded on the NOR, I assume it's the HWID.

See: http://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/in...p?title=Unlock

I picked up this post in another thread (http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=48886). I put the information here so can think about that. FWIW, he probably had activation selected.

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Wow.
I thought this idea like 3 days ago.
Saying. Why the fuck I always need
an internet conection.

I love ur point.

If you believe that these hacks totally blindside Apple then you are very mistaken.

Talk about it or not, it doesn't matter. They know exactly what is going on in dev team land after every release.

Also, I highly recommend Firefox's spell check function.

This is QUITE interesting... Also there's a bunch of ppl complaining abt they dont have signal and common 2G BB issues (gps, wifi doesnt want to work as they want, etc..)

Perhaps DevTeam knows more of THAT stuff we want to know about

Hi Everybody,

I've been away from the scene for quite a while, but I'd like to give my 2 cents to this discussion.

From what I've learned from the iPhone 2G, when the iPhone is unlocked it should come in a state known as "Factory Activated".

That's verified by the lockdownd daemon by reading the tokens inside the lockdownd directory. These tokens are likely put inside the phone by iTunes during the activation process by checking the phone's serial number (or something equivalent). If lockdownd doesn't find the tokens, it will put the baseband in a locked state (semi locked, actually, because lockdownd itself can bring it back again without the need for the NCK, it must be some silly AT command).


The way I think the pwnageTool work for activation purposes is by Patching the lockdownd daemon so it always returns some activated state. Some techniques used to do the same also change some of the inner keys so tokens could be spoofed.

In order to simplify the patching of the lockdownd binary and get activation right away, some tokens used to be erased so they wouldn't get in conflict with the ones used for youtube, etc.

What I thing is going wrong is that officially unlocked iPhone might read the factory activated tokens via another program, and since they are not there, the whole thing will result in a locked state. Or maybe even the lockdownd binary is no patched properly (maybe in some cases the execution flow follows other paths that are not covered by the patch and will inevitably make the binary seek for the tokens anyway).

So, in my opinion, it has nothing to do with the NCK. The baseband remains unlocked, but the iPhone OS is putting it in the semi-locked stage (via lockdownd or another new binary) because of the activation issues I described.


So, I guess, in order to avoid any trouble with officially unlocked phones, your should choose "No Activation" in the pwnage tool.


Well, that's only my 2 cents...

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Exactly right. This is like brick-mode on 1.1.x.

i wish i just could downgrade the firmware to 1.1.4 then unlock it for t-mobile with ziphone or something i really dont want the new 2.0.2 and 2.0.1 stuff. I just sold my 8gb for 350 and planning on buying a white 16gb and cancel and all that stuff and just wait for an unlock