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Old 01-16-2008, 03:36 PM
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Default [1.1.3] Question about bootloader

i saw some people putting new version firmware 1.1.3 in their iPhones.
a change on baseband version exists ( now it is 04.03.13 ), but, people who do this reports the bootloader version doesn't change.
so my cuestion is: the bootloader version change with this update? or what I say before told us we'll have a beautiful iPodTouch for month?
bcause how i remember, u guys needed a new bootloader version, not only a new baseband version.
of course all about it is in progress, dev team working on it, but my cuestion is if you can following previous steps

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Old 01-16-2008, 03:44 PM
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You need to check the bootloader version on a 1.1.3 OTB phone. Upgrading previous versions to 1.1.2 didin't change the bootloader neither, just the baseband and the firmware. 1.1.2 came with a new bootloader anyway, so we need to wait untill someone with a 1.1.3 OTB checks the bootloader version, then we will know it.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:23 PM
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i saw some people putting new version firmware 1.1.3 in their iPhones.
a change on baseband version exists ( now it is 04.03.13 ), but, people who do this reports the bootloader version doesn't change.
so my cuestion is: the bootloader version change with this update? or what I say before told us we'll have a beautiful iPodTouch for month?
bcause how i remember, u guys needed a new bootloader version, not only a new baseband version.
of course all about it is in progress, dev team working on it, but my cuestion is if you can following previous steps

thx

PS: sorry my english
It would really be helpful if people read around a bit more...

Wrong:
The bootloader DOESN'T change with firmware upgrade! If it was possible to change the bootloader through software update, 1.1.2 OTB would have been unlocked long time ago, someone would have written a new bootloader

Instead, the bootloader (flashed on a chip) controls which baseband software can be loaded into the iPhone. Bootloader 3.9 allowed for a baseband with the same version as the current one in the iPhone to be reloaded, thus allowing a patched version of the baseband to be loaded.
Enter bootloader 4.6. This bootloader (which first appeared on 1.1.2 OTB iPhones) allows only a NEWER version of the baseband to be loaded, so patching the 1.1.2 OTB baseband doesn't work
So, when you load the 1.1.3 firmware on an 1.1.2 OTB iPhone, the bootloader will allow this, and upgrade the baseband to the new 4.03.13 version.

This is also the general idea behind the 1.1.2 OTB software unlock. Take a part of the new 4.03.13 baseband called the secpack, and attach it to a patched version of the 4.02.13 which came with the 1.1.2 OTB.
When loading such a baseband, at least theoretically, the bootloader would be fooled by the new and valid secpack, and allow the loading of the unlocked baseband

The 4.6 bootloader WILL NOT allow for a lower version to be loaded after that, so everyone that loaded 1.1.3 on their 1.1.2 OTB iPhones will have to wait for the 1.1.4 secpack, unless there is some other way to soft-unlock a 4.03.13 version baseband
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:37 PM
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1.1.1 OTB phones are gonnna be expensive. People with 4.6 BL are going to be behing one step all the time
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Enter bootloader 4.6. This bootloader (which first appeared on 1.1.2 OTB iPhones) allows only a NEWER version of the baseband to be loaded, so patching the 1.1.2 OTB baseband doesn't work
And a digitally signed one. We can create a newer seczone but we can not create a digital signature for it.

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This is also the general idea behind the 1.1.2 OTB software unlock. Take a part of the new 4.03.13 baseband called the secpack, and attach it to a patched version of the 4.02.13 which came with the 1.1.2 OTB.
When loading such a baseband, at least theoretically, the bootloader would be fooled by the new and valid secpack, and allow the loading of the unlocked baseband
Actually from what I've read their planning to do the changes on the 1.1.3 baseband firmware.Why make the changes and try to copy to seczone/digital signature from 1.1.3 on 1.1.2 to make it look like 1.1.3 when you can just make the changes on the 1.1.3 upgrade it(on 4.6 it won't overwrite the bb firmware since it only allows upgrades and its already the most recent digitally signed version)
3.9 bootloaders would have to upgrade first and then overwrite the bb firmware.

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The 4.6 bootloader WILL NOT allow for a lower version to be loaded after that, so everyone that loaded 1.1.3 on their 1.1.2 OTB iPhones will have to wait for the 1.1.4 secpack, unless there is some other way to soft-unlock a 4.03.13 version baseband
No bootloader was designed to allow downgrades. But you can trick a 3.9 to load an older,newer,hacked bb fw by editing the version to match the one that is currently installed!
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:04 PM
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1.1.1 OTB phones are gonnna be expensive. People with 4.6 BL are going to be behing one step all the time
With $100 you can have your com board replaced with one that has a 3.9 bootloader.

Given that a new iphone OTB costs $400 the total is $500 as the cost of 1.1.1 with a 3.9 bootloader is around 600 to 700 dollars on ebay!
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Does the 1.1.3 OTB have a different bootloader?
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Does the 1.1.3 OTB have a different bootloader?
Unlock iPhone 1.1.3 bootloader 4.6 ok !

http://www.gsm.com.vn/forum/main/sho...314#post783314
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:24 PM
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That's sad lol. They have unlocked 1.1.3 before 1.1.2!
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