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Old 01-17-2008, 04:32 PM
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After the update 1.1.3 the iPhone TV out function works with the older "iPod" universal docks with S-Video and the older "iPod" AV cables.
Can anyone else confirm? Did the 1.1.3 upgrade do anything for video output through old universal dock connector?
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:25 AM
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I basically bought my ipod touch to use at my new gym, they have TechnoGym machines which are basically $16 000 treadmills and other cardio machines that all have built-in ipod docks and built in 15inch touchscreens that display the iPod menus. All the TechnoGym cardio machines work great with my wifes new 3G Nano but with my touch 1.1.1 only music works. I bought the new touch AV cables and plug it in that way, I am hoping that upgrading 1.1.3 will enable my touch to work on the TechnoGym machines so I can return the cable and save my $60 and not have to carry it around the gym.

My 1.1.1 is fully jailbroken so if I upgrade to 1.1.3 and it doesn't work on the TechnoGym machines I'll be very pissed. Thats basically why I really want to find out if the touch will output video on the same docks that the 3G nano does.

I love the jailbroken apps on the touch but I did buy the touch for video output at the gym so I'd be willing to give the apps up if it would work on the TechnoGym machines.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:17 PM
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I basically bought my ipod touch to use at my new gym, they have TechnoGym machines which are basically $16 000 treadmills and other cardio machines that all have built-in ipod docks and built in 15inch touchscreens that display the iPod menus. All the TechnoGym cardio machines work great with my wifes new 3G Nano but with my touch 1.1.1 only music works. I bought the new touch AV cables and plug it in that way, I am hoping that upgrading 1.1.3 will enable my touch to work on the TechnoGym machines so I can return the cable and save my $60 and not have to carry it around the gym.

My 1.1.1 is fully jailbroken so if I upgrade to 1.1.3 and it doesn't work on the TechnoGym machines I'll be very pissed. Thats basically why I really want to find out if the touch will output video on the same docks that the 3G nano does.

I love the jailbroken apps on the touch but I did buy the touch for video output at the gym so I'd be willing to give the apps up if it would work on the TechnoGym machines.
I hope it works... I'm trying to get my hands on more video docks to test the update... I'll let you know what comes up.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:27 PM
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Wow that's great news as I don't have a component video input. So jsut to conform you can use a classic RCA (composite) plug like this one on the iPhone?

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObje...cks&nplm=MB129

Funny, don't remember iPhone being listed as compatible before now...
You could use that cable before 1.1.3 - it has always been listed as iPhone compatible as long as I can remember.

I think mrinstall means one of the dirt-cheap iPod Video cables with the dock connector. Something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-TV-AV-CA...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:06 AM
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I'm not sure if this helps, but I noticed the following post on Amazon.com:

"...Cut the cable just below the 30-pin dock connector. Inside the 30-pin connector is where the authentication chip is. This connector is now like a "key" to begin your video. Once video output begins, take out the "key" and insert your other cable. Video will now stream to your television." (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...cm_rdp_product -- see messages.)

I wonder if you could just go to Radio-Shack, ask for a 1-time demo, then have your iPhone/6G iPod be "activated" for TV output -- using a cheaper, non-apple cable.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:00 AM
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Slightly off topic:

Does anyone know what pins I have to change to allow my old iPod Line-Out-Dock AUDIO cable to work with my iPhone (1.1.1)?

This cable has a dock connector at one end, and a 3.5mm Stereo Jack at the other end.

If I plug it into my iPhone, nothing happens... No audio comes out of it, and the iPhone doesn't display the warning about switching to Airplane mode etc.

I know one company has changed their design to work with iPhones, but they're keeping the pinouts a secret. I just want to modify mine so it works!

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Old 01-22-2008, 01:58 PM
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The pins are supposedly the same as in the ipods. I know both because i've disassembled both the component and the compite iphone cables, but also because apple.com lists these new cables as being backwards compatible with older ipods.
However the Iphone+touch looks for a certain identifikation which I have yet to uncover. You'll see in earlier posts that the new cables have built in IC's that are pretty diffucult to make something out of...
So, unless you create native software that forces a TV-out on the iphone/touch your old cables will definatly not be usable.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:53 PM
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You could use that cable before 1.1.3 - it has always been listed as iPhone compatible as long as I can remember.

I think mrinstall means one of the dirt-cheap iPod Video cables with the dock connector. Something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-TV-AV-CA...QQcmdZViewItem
I don't know if that will work.

The difference after the update is that the older "iPod" universal dock (p\n MA045G/C) will now work with the older "iPod" AV cables (P\N M9765G/B) or an S-Video cable. The new cables are the "Apple" AV cables.

It's confusing because Apple had locked out the "iPod" branded universal dock. Since the update you can use the older equipment.

I bought the "Apple" cables because the doc wouldn't work before the update. Now both "iPod" and "Apple" brand work (yes there is a difference).
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:00 AM
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Here is the cable and dock...




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Old 01-25-2008, 06:54 AM
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After upgrading to 1.1.3 without the $20 applications the universal dock does not output video.
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