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Old 08-01-2008, 07:01 PM
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Further to that post of mine.

I've just tried another VF sim and it works fine with a SIM solution (Tsim). First time I have tried it.

Will be interesting to see how long it lasts and that after a few uses - if it continues to work. I suspect the networks are learning something somewhere to block 'logins' that are dodgy on their networks.
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:04 PM
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Another major thing which you've not added. The SIM card belongs to your provider.

They could also claim that you 'playing' with it is against their T&C. I've not had any problems with that now but something I have been thinking is this.

Once a network sees these attempts - I wonder if they apply some monitoring to it.

The reason I say this is fairly straight forward. My voda sim worked on a certain brand of proxy sim. Alwys worked - even if only for outbound calls/texts. But now it simply refuses to work at all when paired with a proxy sim. Strange.
My Nomi which operates as MVNO on Vodafone had the Vodafone network "adapt" very quickly to it and killed the service (when used with SIM hacks like Turbo and Yes-SIM) very quickly.

Nomi by itself, the SIM, works fine.

I think Vodafone has it's sh*t together so the UK networks anyway adapt very quickly to SIM hacks and perhaps put your particular number/ IM-whatever onto a "filter" or "black" list.

O2 PAYG with Yessim seems to be holding up. Maybe because it is a brand new PAYG SIM, maybe it is because O2 is a sucky company overall (there was supposed to be free 100 minutes for international with a £15 top up which I did... now the automated response says only 50 minutes WTF...), maybe it's an iPhone 3G where they relax the rules a bit...

RebelSIM claims no maldoings with the network. Keep us updated and logs
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:00 PM
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I have 5x Yessim and an AT&T USA locked iPhone 3G waiting for me at home.

I will get to try it out on Monday with my T-Mobile UK SIM and will report here.

Is it likely to work?
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:20 PM
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T-Mobile is very doubtful. Any/all the solutions I have tried do not work with T-Mobile UK.

Try Vodafone.. they seem the best at working (but also stop working shortly after (possible network block)).

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Old 08-02-2008, 11:19 PM
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The whole point of getting the Yessim was to use it with my T-Mobile UK web&walk data allowance.

Here's hoping the dev team will sort out a proper baseband unlock...
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:30 AM
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The whole point of getting the Yessim was to use it with my T-Mobile UK web&walk data allowance.

Here's hoping the dev team will sort out a proper baseband unlock...
I'd seriously advise that you don't spend (waste) any more money on proxy sim solutions at this time.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:07 AM
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I'd seriously advise that you don't spend (waste) any more money on proxy sim solutions at this time.
The problem is matt, there are no way of using the iPhone 3G without those proxy sim for the moment. So it's a temporary solution until dev team release the unlock.
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The problem is matt, there are no way of using the iPhone 3G without those proxy sim for the moment. So it's a temporary solution until dev team release the unlock.
If that is a risk you are willing to take. Your could ultimately be banned from the network completely or worse, get your IMEI barred by the network (yes, they can do that - and DO do it here in the UK). (in the UK, once you are IMEI barred from one network - you are IMEI barred from them all - now, this maybe excessive but think about what we (albeit indirectly, as the proxy is doing it) are doing.

Worse still - what if you get a knock on the door from her majestys finest (or the police where you are). What are you going to say? I was using this proxy sim to trick the phone to think it was on another network so I could use it? That would not stand up no matter which way you spin in. It is fraudulent use of a network and I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND TO ANYONE TO NOT - NOT - NOT USE IT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS (or even try to).

Put the phone in it's box and be PATIENT. If you can't do that. Sell it and get one from Italy, China or Australia that is properly and officially unlocked by Apple.

Simple.
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:36 PM
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..... spoofing the MCC+MNC is enough to fool the phone SIM locking algorithms.

Now the problem is, what about your actual connection ? Let's sum it up roughly

The MCC/MNC is part of the IMSI, which is your login to the mobile network.
Problem is, those tricks are temporary, not reliable, and most of all, highly illegal in most countries.

That's the sad state of proxy SIM unlocking right now ...
Hi Zf_

I am a bit confused about the TurboSIM and these other SIM 'solutions'?

Are they the same?

Is the TurboSIM (when prepared with the correct application) also doing something unlawful (in most countries)?

I am distributing the genuine Bladox TurboSIM in Australia and eBay keep removing my listings for blank TurboSIMs (even when they don't mention unlocking) saying they (TurboSIMs) are illegal in Australia? My legal advice, and advice from the Australian Communications Authority, was that these devices are legal (and so is carrier/SIM unlocking a phone that one owns).

Of course if, when programmed, a TurboSIM is doing something unlawful I may have to stop complaining to eBay.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Old 08-03-2008, 04:07 PM
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Hi Zf_

I am a bit confused about the TurboSIM and these other SIM 'solutions'?

Are they the same?

Is the TurboSIM (when prepared with the correct application) also doing something unlawful (in most countries)?

I am distributing the genuine Bladox TurboSIM in Australia and eBay keep removing my listings for blank TurboSIMs (even when they don't mention unlocking) saying they (TurboSIMs) are illegal in Australia? My legal advice, and advice from the Australian Communications Authority, was that these devices are legal (and so is carrier/SIM unlocking a phone that one owns).

Of course if, when programmed, a TurboSIM is doing something unlawful I may have to stop complaining to eBay.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

A3 Australia
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Yeah, they're perfectly legal with the correct applications on them

AppleSaft, other SIM Toolkit applications, stuff that doesn't corrupt the network authentication process are perfectly legal.

Lamesaft is in a gray area - technically it justs simulates a Test IMSI

zeroG (and other similar SIM solutions) try to work around the network registration process which is definitely not authorized.
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