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    Default [idea] Standalone jailbreak (semi-tethered)

    After unlocking a friend spanking new OTB 3gs (tethered unlock) and knowing a thing or two about microcontrollers, I had one of these eureka moments

    What if one were capable of making a little device that carries blacksnow payload and using it as a portable unlocker?

    I don't know how complex the handshake between the iphone and the pc is, but I do know there are little microprocessors available today that can handle a decent amount of data and are very capable of doing such a task.

    Such a device if built by the community should not cost more than $10~$15 bucks

    Am Im missing something and talking nonsense? Someone else proposed this and I missed it?


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    Its not impossible.

    other guys are quit,and doing unlocking iphones for business purposes only. (even geo didnt release his unlock solution.)

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    Please don't confuse unlock and jailbreak. It is the jailbreak that is tethered

    When the 2G iPod touch had the same tethered jailbreak problem (before 24Kpwn was discovered). MuscleNerd demonstrated a way to get a jailbroken iPodTouch to boot without connecting it to a computer. This was a semi-tethered jailbreak. He used a DefCon badge (which always contain programmable chips because this is a hacking conference)

    The same idea is definitely possible with the 3GS but please consider the story of nitokey before you start getting grand ideas. If that fisaco had not happened earlier this year Apple might not have had the chance to release a mid-shipment bootrom fix.
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    If the future of jailbreaks is tethered, we will have to come up with a solution.

    I was thinking more of a DIY open source device, nowadays most decent microcontrollers have USB capabilities, Microchip PIC for example. Im not sure how much it weights the payload, but I think its within the breadboard capabilities, not too many components needed.

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    Hmm,, Just my idea

    If make a temporary unjailbreak status with some small modification.
    It will be helpful for Tethered Jailbreaked Phone User.
    because when he/she can not use computer over long time, they can unjailbreak before leave.


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    From what I understand , this is really quite simple to implement, the interface on the dock connector is serial and geohot's jailbreak adds another command to iBoot that implements the jailbreak. From the serial interface you simply need to send the name of that command and a line terminator to execute it. That is it.
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    is there a clear explanation of this handshake somewhere online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peu View Post
    is there a clear explanation of this handshake somewhere online?
    Do some searching around, there is info, search for redsn0w and 2G iPod Touch. A kickstarter (for an already jailbroken iPhone) is quite possible via serial. There is info on how to access the dock connector's serial pins
    It also seems it is possible to develop a USB based version, which would be much more expensive) but could hold the entire exploit.
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    the time finally came and I will be getting a 3GS from a friend that goes legit with his phone company, this 3GS unlock is tethered

    Can you point me to any page that includes schematics/code for a dongle?

    I know about microcontrollers, but Im lost regarding the protocol to inject the blackrain code to re-enable the phone.

    Thanks

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    so far what I know is that I need to put the phone back in normal mode from recovery mode, but is this enough?

    Here is some info:
    Recovery Mode (Protocols) - The iPhone Wiki

    but no clue about how to implement it, there is no info about what to send. Also knowing if this can be done over serial instead of USB would help too.

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