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Discuss [idea] Standalone jailbreak (semi-tethered) at the Blackra1n (3G(S) jailbreak) - Hackint0sh.org; Originally Posted by peu Excellent! I hope he open sources it so I can build ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by peu View Post
    Excellent! I hope he open sources it so I can build one and/or someone can improve it.
    Not open source yet. I don't know if it will be... But it's working for tethered 3.1.2, and it can be upgraded for 3.1.3 if it came out one day !


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    Nice work !!!
    Very interesting
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    Thanks ! I look forward to raise funds to build in quantities. Stay tuned, I shipped a prototype to BigBoss, you should find a review soon ^^
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    After review, if good, BigBoss can definitely help spread the word/news about this.
    Good luck

    ps: @nono240, can I email you privately on the forum?... I have something to ask.
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by posixninja View Post
    Hello. This idea has been tossed around, the biggest issue is you can't use serial for sending the exploit. The actual vulnerabality for the exploit is in the USB code of the bootloader, so it would require at least a uC with a USB (OTG?) controller.
    I see your are crossing tweets with the Ibreakit guy about your payload and stuff, why not post a complete tutorial on how to implement the hack so it can be done by more than one?

    about $50 for a dongle is a ripoff, you can purchase a cheap netbook for around $100 nowadays...


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    Quote Originally Posted by peu View Post
    I see your are crossing tweets with the Ibreakit guy about your payload and stuff, why not post a complete tutorial on how to implement the hack so it can be done by more than one?

    about $50 for a dongle is a ripoff, you can purchase a cheap netbook for around $100 nowadays
    You are not accounting for huge differences in economies of scale. Netbooks are manufactured by the millions. This guy is talking about hand making a few prototypes at the moment. Even moderate scale mass production will still not be cheap as the scale is much smaller.

    If he releases the source, there will be a million knock off versions on the net, still priced at $50 but manufactured in china for $3. I think he has the right to keep this to himself, the information to implement your own solution from scratch is out there for anyone with enough technical knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    You are not accounting for huge differences in economies of scale. Netbooks are manufactured by the millions. This guy is talking about hand making a few prototypes at the moment. Even moderate scale mass production will still not be cheap as the scale is much smaller.

    If he releases the source, there will be a million knock off versions on the net, still priced at $50 but manufactured in china for $3. I think he has the right to keep this to himself, the information to implement your own solution from scratch is out there for anyone with enough technical knowledge.
    Ten 1st units were handmade, now he is scalling for a large production.

    My comment wasnt directed at the ibreakit guy, he has the right to charge whatever sees fit for his invention, I still consider $50 a ripoff. My comment was aimed at posixninja after I read this 3 tweets of him:

    @Mribreakit oh, ok. Let me know if you need any help. I've been working with the exploit longer then geohot or devteam, my payload is best
    3:08 PM Mar 10th via Echofon in reply to Mribreakit

    @Mribreakit honestly you shouldn't even need a ramdisk, the payload should handle everything, how is your payload working currently?
    2:01 PM Mar 10th via Echofon in reply to Mribreakit

    @Mribreakit nice dongle, but why does your payload take so long? It shouldn't take but 5-10 seconds at most to boot
    I still don't understand why one well known member of the community, I mean posix, only offers info to a certain guy and not to the whole community.
    When I first posted this thread I tought of the device ibreakit made, but I also tought that with the info on how to do it, there will be more than one provider of dongles, and even better, someone may open source the whole kludge and post it at instructables or similar site.
    Also, since I posted this thread, I looked for info about how to implement this and found nil, only snippets of unconnected info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peu View Post
    My comment wasnt directed at the ibreakit guy, he has the right to charge whatever sees fit for his invention, I still consider $50 a ripoff.
    My reply was purely directed at you thinking $50 is a ripoff.

    Quote Originally Posted by peu View Post
    My comment was aimed at posixninja after I read this 3 tweets of him:
    This is purely posixninja's decision. The exploit is out in the open and now has been closed now by Apple, why should he let his code sit and rot?

    The jailbreaks are generally never released as source. They don't need to be in this case either. Every previous example of releasing source code related to jailbreaking or unlocking has ended up with the source being mis-used for commercial gain with no credit to the original author.
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