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    Hi my cuzn lives in texas, and I asked her to buy me a the iphone 3gs, due to the large discount i would get if I purchased it there, than here in saudi arabia which costs quadruple the $200 US price tag. Now she's afraid about the 2 year contract of AT&T and that she will be billed monthly for 2 years. Is this the case if you buy an iphone? Or can u just buy it and not activate it to AT&T? I have purchased a 2g back in 2007 thru my friend and so far they did not ask her to activate it at once. Im just not familiar with the procedures now if u buy in an apple or at&t store. I heard they need it activated in-store. As you purchase is that the case now???
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgodfather2k5 View Post
    Hi my cuzn lives in texas, and I asked her to buy me a the iphone 3gs, due to the large discount i would get if I purchased it there, than here in saudi arabia which costs quadruple the $200 US price tag. Now she's afraid about the 2 year contract of AT&T and that she will be billed monthly for 2 years. Is this the case if you buy an iphone? Or can u just buy it and not activate it to AT&T? I have purchased a 2g back in 2007 thru my friend and so far they did not ask her to activate it at once. Im just not familiar with the procedures now if u buy in an apple or at&t store. I heard they need it activated in-store. As you purchase is that the case now???
    In summary, when you factor in the iPhone subsidy, the price balloons to 2.5x the US list price and is still locked to AT&T.

    The $200 price tag is heavily subsidised by AT&T. You really are better off getting the iPhone from Saudi Arabia (I believe they sell it unlocked).

    For the 2G, it was possible to buy the iPhone from Apple and then never activate it with AT&T. That cost AT&T and Apple a lot of lost revenue and now since the 3G, the deal between Apple and AT&T has changed.

    Now, it is impossible to buy an iPhone in the US without also purchasing some sort of contract with AT&T. You must wait until 30 days after purchase to cancel your contract without being required to return the iPhone. You also need to pay an early termination fee

    $199 or $299 depending on iPhone 3GS model + $36 Activation Fee + $175 Early Termination Fee + $70 One Month AT&T Service = $480 / $580 respectively. (excluding taxes)

    The iPhone is still locked to AT&Ts network so you need to jailbreak (which is tethered-jailbreak for all new 3GS iPhones) and apply a software unlock.

    For a short period, AT&T offered a contract free purchase for iPhones priced at $599 (phone was locked to AT&T network), however this option is no longer available.

    Unlike the 2G iPhone which can be unlocked permanently using BootNeuter. The iPhone hackers have not managed to develop a permanent unlock for 3G or 3GS iPhone, so you have to be very careful with iPhone OS updates as they often include an update to the radio baseband which blocks all known software unlocks.
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    I sell iPhones without contract.

    16gig 3GS for $450 shipped.

    32gig 3GS for $615 shipped.


    Add $90 for international shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw View Post
    I sell iPhones without contract.

    16gig 3GS for $450 shipped.

    32gig 3GS for $615 shipped.


    Add $90 for international shipping.
    Can you clarify if these are locked to AT&T? Are they refurbished iPhones or new? Do they have the new bootrom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    In summary, when you factor in the iPhone subsidy, the price balloons to 2.5x the US list price and is still locked to AT&T.

    The $200 price tag is heavily subsidised by AT&T. You really are better off getting the iPhone from Saudi Arabia (I believe they sell it unlocked).

    For the 2G, it was possible to buy the iPhone from Apple and then never activate it with AT&T. That cost AT&T and Apple a lot of lost revenue and now since the 3G, the deal between Apple and AT&T has changed.

    Now, it is impossible to buy an iPhone in the US without also purchasing some sort of contract with AT&T. You must wait until 30 days after purchase to cancel your contract without being required to return the iPhone. You also need to pay an early termination fee

    $199 or $299 depending on iPhone 3GS model + $36 Activation Fee + $175 Early Termination Fee + $70 One Month AT&T Service = $480 / $580 respectively. (excluding taxes)

    The iPhone is still locked to AT&Ts network so you need to jailbreak (which is tethered-jailbreak for all new 3GS iPhones) and apply a software unlock.

    For a short period, AT&T offered a contract free purchase for iPhones priced at $599 (phone was locked to AT&T network), however this option is no longer available.

    Unlike the 2G iPhone which can be unlocked permanently using BootNeuter. The iPhone hackers have not managed to develop a permanent unlock for 3G or 3GS iPhone, so you have to be very careful with iPhone OS updates as they often include an update to the radio baseband which blocks all known software unlocks.
    Breaks my heart to hear we lost that option. I know, that here in saudi arabia, the official carrier and sole vendor is Mobily communications and they have a 6 month contract only. But if you put in a different sim it works as well. Hmm... guess I need to save more to purchase the 3GS then.

    One last thing, do you think that in months to come could we expect to have a similar unlock solution as to the boot neuter of 2g and 3g iphones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgodfather2k5 View Post
    One last thing, do you think that in months to come could we expect to have a similar unlock solution as to the boot neuter of 2g and 3g iphones?
    I would never underestimate the iPhone hackers as they have worked miracles before. However, I think that it is very unlikely that this will happen.

    They have not uncovered any new exploits in the baseband bootloader for more than a year. The baseband itself is now signature checked on load. Without a baseband bootloader exploit, things look quite difficult in this direction.

    Another factor to consider is that the software only unlocks are "safer" from the iPhone hacking community perspective. There is no risk of the AnySim problems from the early 2G iPhone days recurring. Software unlocks put the responsibility to unlock and upgrade responsibly on the shoulders of the users. It is hard to completely screw up a 3GS or 3G while trying to unlock/jailbreak the phone now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post

    Another factor to consider is that the software only unlocks are "safer" from the iPhone hacking community perspective. There is no risk of the AnySim problems from the early 2G iPhone days recurring. Software unlocks put the responsibility to unlock and upgrade responsibly on the shoulders of the users. It is hard to completely screw up a 3GS or 3G while trying to unlock/jailbreak the phone now.

    Thank you so much olethros, ur much help in weighing my options. Now im just not sure if I buy an iphone unlocked here in saudi arabia, all the features are available gps, 3g, mms etc. If ever I jb it can I have access to cydia? Or is there a way to access cydia apps without losing 3g, mms, gps capabilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgodfather2k5 View Post
    Thank you so much olethros, ur much help in weighing my options. Now im just not sure if I buy an iphone unlocked here in saudi arabia, all the features are available gps, 3g, mms etc. If ever I jb it can I have access to cydia? Or is there a way to access cydia apps without losing 3g, mms, gps capabilities?
    GPS is available, 3G is supported if your network supports it (t-Mobile in the US uses the wrong 3G frequencies for example)

    MMS is generally supported, however it requires the correct settings for your carrier. If you use a carrier that is officially supported (even if your iPhone is unlocked) everything is automatically setup for you.

    If you use another carrier, you need to make your own ipcc Carrier Bundle Generator iPhone OS 3.0 - 3.1.2 (ipcc) and upload it to your iPhone using this website. This generally does not require a jailbreak.

    If you want tethering and your carrier does not officially support it, you need to jailbreak and patch CommCenter to disable the ipcc signature checks.

    You can jailbreak unlocked iPhones and access Cydia. However iPhones sold since September have an updated bootrom. This means that the jailbreak is detected at each reboot and the iPhone hangs at the connect to iTunes screen until you can connect to a computer and run blackra1n again. This is referred to as a tethered jailbreak.
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    thank you so much otheros, now I think I know what to do after I purchase an iphone. Your information really helped me so much...
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