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    Hello.

    I recently purchased an Apple TV for my parents. While my Apple TV (gen1) is hacked for Saphire, Nito TV, etc. I'm going to leave their ATV (gen2) stock as they just want to rent the odd movie from iTunes and for use of their Netflix account. So, hooked everything up this weekend and as soon as I tried to access Netflix, I get a HDCP error (something along the lines of the connection not supporting HDCP). I get the same error when trying to view a rented movie from iTunes. I tried various cables, HDMI ports, etc. and nothing worked (and I confirmed that their HDMI ports all support HDCP (via HDMI v1.3). Not sure where the problem is as their other HDMI connections (Blu player) have no issues, yet when I took the ATV to my house, using same cables, I have no HDCP issues.

    Anyway, point being. My parents have no issue paying for the content they want, but the HDCP issue prevents this. So, I'm wondering if anyone knows a way of getting around the HDCP check? Is there any hardware that can go between the TV and the ATV (incase it's the TV and not the ATV that's the problem) that will accept the HDCP check, then push the content (audio/video) to the TV?

    I'm at a loss here.
    Since the ATV only has HDMI out and their TV only has HDMI* (no DVI), the ATV is basically useless/a brick that I'll have to return unless there's some way around this.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated!
    k.

    *it also has VGA, component and composite, but none of these support HDCP like HDMI and DVI do.



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    It could be that either the ATV or the TV don't adhere to the HDCP spec properly. It could be either.

    While HDCP has been (in theory) cracked, as far as I know no-one has yet made a hardware device that can strip HDCP from a signal as it would be retail suicide to sell such a device.

    As it's a recent purchase, contact Apple - explain the problem - if you haven't updated to the very latest ATV iOS version - do so (or they will advise you to do this as the first troubleshooting step). You get 90 days of telephone support with your purchase.

    There were some HDCP issues with the initial ATV2 release, but I thought they were quickly fixed with the 4.2.1 iOS release.
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    Yea, I've gone through all the various troubleshooting options with no success.
    There is a hardware based option that will work for me (HDfury), but it costs more than the ATV itself.
    Ah well, thanks for the reply. Back to the Apple Store it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olethros View Post
    It could be that either the ATV or the TV don't adhere to the HDCP spec properly. It could be either.

    While HDCP has been (in theory) cracked, as far as I know no-one has yet made a hardware device that can strip HDCP from a signal as it would be retail suicide to sell such a device.

    As it's a recent purchase, contact Apple - explain the problem - if you haven't updated to the very latest ATV iOS version - do so (or they will advise you to do this as the first troubleshooting step). You get 90 days of telephone support with your purchase.

    There were some HDCP issues with the initial ATV2 release, but I thought they were quickly fixed with the 4.2.1 iOS release.

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    Welcome to the world of DRMed content and where paying customers are sacrificed for the failed prevention of piracy.

    As far as HDCP being cracked, the algorithm itself has been public knowledge for some time (may be even officially published; I'm not sure), but not cracked as far as I know. The master key, which is used to generate all the keys in all the devices, has been leaked. That means one can use the master key to generate as many device keys as they would like and they would all work.

    Intel has stated that they will pursue any manufacturer who uses this master key to create a device. Those who have a license for their own key must adhere to certain restrictions, such as not allowing easy access to an unencrypted signal that isn't degraded. This is why the strippers are quickly pulled from the selves and you really can't buy one.

    I have noticed that you can buy an HDCP capable HDMI receiver and transmitter (the part that goes on a circuit board and connects to an HDMI cable). I've often wondered what would happen if one were to get these two components, connect the output from the receiver to the input of the transmitter, load an HDCP key into the receiver, don't load one into the transmitter, and set the pin on the transmitter requiring encryption to ground. Given that these components are the ones that the hardware manufactures buy themselves, I bet it would work.

 

 

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