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tried again; there is something that breaks when i update Quicktime and itunes to the latest version using the Software updater....it installs as it should but then as it restarts it wont re-boot......
any ideas on how i can get this fixed as i need to run the latest version of itunes?
Atm I have no running OSX on my ATV, so I can't try to use the software update. Perhaps the hackintosh/osx86 guys have an idea. This is a common problem with hackintoshs.
Try to search the forum over at insanelymac.com. Maybe there is a solution for this.
thanks Ash for all the help; managed to get ITunes working only playing MP3 files that are not reliant on quicktime codecs....posted in seperate thread
Wow, Kudos to ash! I am amazed you actually went that far on the AppleTV... unfortunately iDeneb.net is really concentrated on Hackintosh hence they dedicate no attention to the Apple TV as they have their hands quite full already...Quote:
Originally Posted by ash
It's a shame there is no tech documentation to know specifically what precise components the AppleTV uses like graphic card HDMI out with HDCP chip and audio bitstream, plus component out, NIC card, WLAN, bluetooth(?) and so forth... well at least we got the cpu specs :P
It would be interesting if more people would find a way to really hack it once and for all installing a stable 10.5.x I hate these coporate policies Apple comes up with from time to time (and lately it's doing it more often than not), which turn awesome product with really great feature and potential, into crippled and underutilized unattractive appliances. To have the AppleTV finder and letting apple decide what customers can or not use (and when, as they would release plugins as they see fit driven by market research) for many may be just fine... The incredible amounts of site that are dedicated to hacking the AppleTV prove quite the contrary. Consumers are not happy with stupid marketing decision made by Apple in order to grow iTunes store sales. For crying out loud! Apple is not even trying to compete with Netflix by selling monthly access to video downloads or going the pandora route and offering free streaming radio... that's just a stupid marketing choice since they already have the hardware part covered with consumers using ipods, iphones, AppleTV and even regular Macs, while Netflix had to wait for Roku and others to come along!
People are trying to hack the AppleTV not just to be sinply free from the crippling limitations imposed by apple, but to finally make the AppleTV righteously theirs by unleashing its entertainment capabilities. Apple may not admit it, but that's and eloquent proof that by not allowing users to freely use OS X apps on the AppleTV they made the lamest decision ever, alsmost as lame as that of putting only 256MB of Ram in the Apple TV (More bad decisions at: Apple's Worst Business Decisions it's an old article but shirt and worth reading).
I have been a long time mac supporter but I was never blind to Apple's flaws like some used to be making a matter of principle and rather than being fair they would even turn evident mac problems into a feature!
Anyways that's just rants about having my AppleTV disassembled and not knowing If I should even waste time to try and install OS X (out of spite and curiosity really), just to discover that one can't send audio to the 5.1/7.1 AV Receiver via HDMI... or avoid the frustration and patchstick it to death with all kinds of plugins (still feels like giving into the restrictions imposed by Apple though) or simply screw this crap, repack it and put it on ebay so I will not have to see it ever again as it sits unused on my media center cabinet! I might as well sell it since it's now more than evident to me that the only purpose that Apple had in mind for this appliance was to have customers buying this Trojan horse and bring it to their homes, so that the iTunes store could widen its reach into people's pockets grabbing more money as customer would purchase Music, Films, TV episodes or pay dearly for rentals!
I'm probably still infatuated with the device and it's hard to part as I see it potential, but it's like having a beautiful girlfriend who's really a hooker who's not only cheating on you to bring money to her pimps, but each time you spend time together she's just interested in your money but in order to disguise that she tells you she is all you need and want, lying through her teeth to get it her way... :P
The more I think about it the more I want to sell it! :( I'll never buy squat on iTunes... sure let me get some DRM-protected mp3s so when the DRM will be remove I can pay even more money to "upgrade" to DRM-free tracks, shelling more money out for what I should have owned the first time I bought it... but I could not own it since RIAA and MPAA think we're all spend every waking hour of our live to steal from them and destroy the billions dollars industry they have build on mediocrity and greed!
Sorry for those who may feel bothered by this post... but I am physically and mentally tired at the moment (not to mention pis*ed-off) because I have spent several days researching how to "convert" this lying bitch called AppleTV into a "god fearing lady" who can really entertain families with her amazing features ;) I'll continue in my quest and try at least once to install OS X on the device... worth giving it a shot after all this searching.
Thanks for the great site/forum it really sucked me in like quicksand!
Best to all members here!
I believe that the extension /System/Library/Extensions.mkext can't be removed manually because as soon as it's removed or renamed OS X creates a new one right away... maybe you can try to remove the extension then quickly unplug the drive? ;P But probably OS X will wait to re-create the mkext file and then eject the drive... so may not work unless you physically unplug it without waiting (hence receiving the Device removal warning)Quote:
Originally Posted by ash
BTW why should this .mkext be removed?
The Extensions.mkext is a "compiled" summary (cache) of all kext. If you install a new kext then it is not in this "cache file" and therefore will not be loaded on boot time. So if you want the new kext to be loaded you have to force Mac OS X to recreate that cache with the new file included. Mac OS X 10.5 does recreate this file automatically. Tiger recreates it on boot time if the file does not exist.
Thanks for the clarification ash! :) Then it means that it's sufficient to delete the file and let Leopart recreate the file... what's the purpose for doing that? Forcing an update of the compiled kext? What will that do? (pardon my ignorance on the topic).Quote:
Originally Posted by ash
I tried to install (just as a test) Leopard on and external drive and went to boot the AppleTV... nothing, just a question mark indicating that there is no suitable OS to boot. So I swapped the boot.efi in the new install with that of the original AppleTV drive, I even slapped in the mach_kernel.prelink (I am driving blind basically)... an dobviously that proved to me that Leopard as it comes in its reailt installer will never boot on AppleTV unless proper modifications are made. Well that we know right? That's why this and other sites exist!:P
Having proven to myself that there is no easy way around the problem (thank you Apple for being so good at crippling the AppleTV and preventing OS X installs on it!). Now I am down the road of iDeneb 10.5.6: got it via torrent and burnt the ISO on a DVD to be able to use it as OS X installer, but surprise, surprise... I slap it in click on the installer, authorize the restart typing in password and guess what... the mac restarts, but instead of starting the iDeneb installer, the DVD appears loading for roughly 30 sec. then the Mac enters its OS boot process... this tells me that the mac can't boot from the iDeneb DVD and after the failed attempt the next available boot volume gets selected. That at the moment means that I'll have no way to start the install and try the iDeneb on AppleTV
If anyone could take the time to give me a few pointers/details to get this crap sorted out I'd really appreciate it
Thanks in advance! :)
Do you have a "real" pc? If yes, then try to use it to boot the dvd.
I guess the burning process failed and so the disk is not detected correctly. Try to hold down alt/option on boot. This will bring you to the boot menu. Maybe this works.
I have a real PC an AMD 2GHz that sits now unused and is stored away ready to be given to some friend who may need a computer... but will not be necessary as I did finally manage to start from mac using an USB keyboard (mac BT keyboards suck no selective boot support!)
As I mention in another post though I still can't get the iDeneb 1.4 to work with AppleTV or even on this mac pro where the external HD where the installation of iDeneb was performed is not showing as a boot drive... not in the "System Utility>Startup disk options" nor in the list of bootable volumes when starting the mac in selective boot mode (option key down).
I have no idea of what's going on...
[Update]
After placing the boot.efi from the original AppleTV HD in the /Volumes/[MyHD]/System/Library/CoreServices directory, I changed its permissions through:
chown root:wheel /Volumes/[MyHD]/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi
Then I patched the AppleFileSystemDriver.kext as per linked instructions and proceeded with the next step: "Open the preferences pane/startup disk and select the 10.5.5 Volume. Then restart." and I got the the system to boot from the external drive (gray apple logo and spinning daisy), but after less than a minute I get the "forbidden" sign with the spinning daisy going nowhere...
Did I miss something in the process?
[Update 2]
Well I a really at the end of the rope here... ran first aid on the appletv HD where iDeneb was installed and the report said the disk is fine. Then I ran permission repair and got this (which I do know if has anything to do with the failing boot process):
2009-05-25 15:31:26 -0400: Verify permissions for “appletv”
2009-05-25 15:31:26 -0400: Reading permissions database.
2009-05-25 15:31:26 -0400: Reading the permissions database can take several minutes.
2009-05-25 15:32:57 -0400: Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Versions/A/Resources/runner" has been modified and will not be repaired.
2009-05-25 15:32:59 -0400: Warning: SUID file "usr/sbin/vpnd" has been modified and will not be repaired.
2009-05-25 15:33:02 -0400:
2009-05-25 15:33:02 -0400: Permissions verification complete
The only other thing I can probably add here (although I do not know it's meaningful to debug) is the boot file that I found... looks like some sort of report and although OS X reports it to be a plain text file, it appears to have a log of garbled text (probably some sort of binary encoded code?) throughout the file. I opened it using Panic's Coda and it shows some human readable lines starting at line 189...
download this file to see what I am referring to.
...I wonder what this file is and if it was created while starting from Macbook Pro or while the drive was plugged into the AppleTV.
Thanks again for the all the help!...
PS: I am seriously considering ditching the CR-AppleTV and getting a mini... this is too much trouble for an HDMI and component ports!
[rant]Damn you Apple let users free to do what they need to do with the fu@#@%^#$ hardware and remove the fu@*&*$^% limitations!
The Apple TV is a seductive item. I have mine hooked up to an HDTV next to a Mac Mini(09) which is also hooked up to it. The Mini does way more but the Apple TV just has something which stops me from moving it to our other TV to replace a Power PC Mini which is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by freakqnc
The 256megs of ram pretty well limits most installs so it may not be worth installing the latest Darwin. I have smb,afp,perian,external USB drive, etc...all working great and streaming works fine. It will pretty well play anything I through at it (not 1080p of course) and I know it makes no sense to install a larger hard drive than the 40gig drive it came with (it's 3 months old). After all I have 500gigs off the usb and terabytes from streaming. Nevertheless I look at the ATV and it's begging for that 320 gig WD IDE drive and it's so very tempting despite losing the warranty and the chance of messing everything up. It's this need to see if one can do it:) Same thing when I finally assembled a pretty neat hackintosh using boot-132, but that's left me bored while the ATV doesn't. I guess people with iPhones feel the same way. There is a lot to do there...
The restrictions put in by Apple are really minimal and no doubt due to the studios. It's amazing that there are no few. Of course that 256meg thing is probably to prevent people from getting an ATV over a Mini.
Since it will play almost anything, other than the 1080p stuff, that the other media players do (Popcorn Hour, etc...) why not just keep it? It's a really nice unit and this is from a dedicated Mac Mini fan...
I do understand the frustration though...
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