Another noob question - Firefox (or Chrome) on ATV

Hi,
Just got an ATV (160Gb version), installed Boxee / XBMC using the instructions / files from atvusb-creator - Project Hosting on Google Code.

Since Boxee's browser is a sad joke at best, I was wondering if it's possible to install firefox / chrome / safari on the ATV box.

Saw the entry @ awkardTV (Firefox - AwkwardTV), but it seems to my newbie eyes that they're using some other sort of ATV hack, and some of the files / directories mentioned there don't exist on my box.
Am I missing something?
Is there an updated / better source?

The underlying reason for the need for browser is some kids videos sites (e.g. Go, Diego, Go! Episodes & Video Clips | Go, Diego, Go! | Nick Jr.), so a solution to that can make the firefox question irrelevant.

TIA,

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Originally Posted by ranshe

Hi,
Just got an ATV (160Gb version), installed Boxee / XBMC using the instructions / files from atvusb-creator - Project Hosting on Google Code.

Since Boxee's browser is a sad joke at best, I was wondering if it's possible to install firefox / chrome / safari on the ATV box.

Saw the entry @ awkardTV (Firefox - AwkwardTV), but it seems to my newbie eyes that they're using some other sort of ATV hack, and some of the files / directories mentioned there don't exist on my box.
Am I missing something?
Is there an updated / better source?

The underlying reason for the need for browser is some kids videos sites (e.g. Go, Diego, Go! Episodes & Video Clips | Go, Diego, Go! | Nick Jr.), so a solution to that can make the firefox question irrelevant.

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My ATV runnin 3.0.2 has the commands included.

Have you run smart installer from NitoTV?

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My ATV runnin 3.0.2 has the commands included.
Have you run smart installer from NitoTV?

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I tried installing NitoTV from the "Software" menu, but it does not show up in the menu even after it says "installed".
So I'm guessing the answer for the "smart installer" question is "no".
Need to spend so "quality time" with AwkwardTV, I guess.

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Originally Posted by ranshe

I tried installing NitoTV from the "Software" menu, but it does not show up in the menu even after it says "installed".
So I'm guessing the answer for the "smart installer" question is "no".
Need to spend so "quality time" with AwkwardTV, I guess.

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yep.. what other plugins do you have installed on your appleTV?

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Originally Posted by Olethros

yep.. what other plugins do you have installed on your appleTV?

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Not sure about the terminology yet, but:
1. Transmission bittorrent client (works)
2. VNC (works)
3. Actually did get FF to launch but then it got stuck (and I haven't had VNC at the time)
4. SMB file sharing (works, although I do have a Mac/Boxee problem, see Boxee SMB says source disconnected (nb) - boxee :: forums)
5. SSH, Boxee & XBMC (stating the obvious)
6. One more which I can't remember the exact name, something like "launch more" which was 'advertised' as way to launch any app on the box, but it doesn't do anything

Thanks,
--Ran

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Originally Posted by ranshe

Not sure about the terminology yet, but:
1. Transmission bittorrent client (works)
2. VNC (works)
3. Actually did get FF to launch but then it got stuck (and I haven't had VNC at the time)
4. SMB file sharing (works, although I do have a Mac/Boxee problem, see Boxee SMB says source disconnected (nb) - boxee :: forums)
5. SSH, Boxee & XBMC (stating the obvious)
6. One more which I can't remember the exact name, something like "launch more" which was 'advertised' as way to launch any app on the box, but it doesn't do anything

Thanks,
--Ran

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I'm playing loose with the terminology myself, which doesn't help

I was going to suggest you install the overflow frappliance but the site for it seems to be down.

My second suggestion is to install software menu (not so easy to get working on 3.0.2 - it caused me many restores). These both allow hiding of frappliances, which might help you find the "missing" nitoTV.

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Originally Posted by Olethros

I'm playing loose with the terminology myself, which doesn't help
I was going to suggest you install the overflow frappliance but the site for it seems to be down.
My second suggestion is to install software menu (not so easy to get working on 3.0.2 - it caused me many restores). These both allow hiding of frappliances, which might help you find the "missing" nitoTV.

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But I believe this is part of the ATV hack - I haven't install it myself.
The other one, LaunchMore!, is something I added, but it's not working.
I hid some of the frappliances (mainly the Apple TV video / movies).

I have a screen capture, but the forum only allows 19.5k and even zipped it's 114k.

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Originally Posted by ranshe

But I believe this is part of the ATV hack - I haven't install it myself.
The other one, LaunchMore!, is something I added, but it's not working.
I hid some of the frappliances (mainly the Apple TV video / movies).
I have a screen capture, but the forum only allows 19.5k and even zipped it's 114k.

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Under /System/Library/Core/Services/Finder.app/Contents/PlugIns I have the following frappliances:
Internet, LaunchMore, Music, Settings, SoftwareMenu, XBMCLauncher, nitoTV.

Under /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/PlugIns/XBMCLauncher.frappliance/Contents I edited Info.plist to include the following XML, which is obviously not 100% correct but I wasn't sure which values to stick at some places:
<dict>
<key>apppath</key>
<string>/Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox-bin</string>
<key>entry-type</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>helperpath</key>
<string>/Applications/Boxee.app/Contents/Resources/Boxee/bin/boxeeservice</string>
<key>identifier</key>
<string>Firefox</string>
<key>is-network-dependent</key>
<false/>
<key>is-share-dependent</key>
<false/>
<key>is-store-category</key>
<false/>
<key>name</key>
<string>Firefox</string>
<key>preferred-order</key>
<real>1</real>
<key>priority</key>
<real>1</real>
</dict>